Richmac Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Guys I rang rimmers to get some touch up paint the other day and they didn't recognise my colour code 254 on they engine bay plate nor can I find it in there catalogue. What colour does 254 relate to please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Rich, welcome to the forum. You must have a problem on the engine bay plate. There is no code 254. However the 25 does correspond to TRiumph conifer green Be careful with the rattle cans as the paint match can be most interesting. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Thank you for replying to my post. Quite clearly says 254 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamgl Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Rich, Here is a pinch from Autopaintsbrighton. It shows a code 254. Graham Name of ColourPaint CodeYear Name of ColourPaint CodeYear BEIGES Brooklands green HAE/169 76-78 Bedouin SAA/4 70-72 Cactus green 15 63-67 BokharaBMD/45681 Conifer green2563-69 Bokhara/YW BMD/45681 Elfin green54-56 Cashmere GMD/422 81-86 Emerald HAC/65 72-75 Honeysuckle NAD/39 72-77 Jade green 52-56 Maple7373-77 Java green HAB/208/8 74-78 Maple/RD AAC/83 73-77 Laurel green 55 69-71 Oyster MAA/22977 Lichfield 45 57-62 Reynard GAB/112 74-78 Mallard 106 71-74 Russet Brown AAE/205/93 76-81 Olive 35 63-67 Sand Glow AAJ/6376-77 Poseiden green HAF/281 78 Sienna23 69-73 Racing green 56-61 Tara green HAD/148 76-77 BLUES GREYS Astral Blue JAF/140 7 5-77 Birch grey 66 Comet Blue Dolphin grey 48 65-71 Cornflower Blue Gunmetal 18 63-69 Cotswold Blue 57 Lavender grey Delft Blue 136/JAB 74-77 Phantom grey 38 58-61 Denim Blue JAH/249 78-82 Silverstone grey 71 Flax Blue Slate grey 68 68-72 French Blue JAA71 72-77 REDS Ice Blue JAC/116 72-75 Carmine CAA/209/82 72-78 Meteor Blue JAK223 80-84 Carnelian red CDE/287 77 Moonraker JNF/424 81-86 Cherry red 22 63-68 NautilusJND/47080-82 Damson 17 68-72 Pagent Blue JAG/22478 Flamenco CAD/133 76-78 Powder Blue 58-62 Magenta 92 72-74 Renoir Blue 46 61-62 Pimento red CAB/204/72 71-76 Royal Blue 5668-68 Pink wisteria Royal Blue/LT56 64-72 Signal red 32 54-71 Sapphire/GN 9671-74 Targo purple Tahiti Blue JAE/65/14 74-77 Vermillion CAE/11877 Valencia Blue 66 67-71 WHITES Wedgewood Blue 26 63-72 Nimbus white 58-61 Zircon Blue JNJ/471 80-85 Pearl/ spa white 53-63 GREENS Porcelain/leyland white NCG/NAF/243 77 Apple green 66-67 Sebring white 59-62 British racing green HAA/254/75 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, Richmac said: Thank you for replying to my post. Quite clearly says 254 Sorry to say but the plate don't look right to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Rich, what colour is your car.? 254 is not a TRiumph colour code although it may show on paint supplier lists as Graham has shown. The commission plate looks new. I would suggest that whoever stamped it out had the wrong number or a number off a tin. The trim number is missing. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, ntc said: Sorry to say but the plate don't look right to me. +1 Font and size looks wrong to me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Thanks guys for taking the time. Something is odd. The car was restored some time ago and the plate does look new . I guess I will have to take it to a paint shop to be matched. The car is defiantly green!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Hill Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) That numeral 4 looks way out of keeping with the the other two lovely colour Conifer Green popular colour for a TR5 Edited April 17, 2020 by Paul Hill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Grahamgl said: Rich, Here is a pinch from Autopaintsbrighton. It shows a code 254. Graham Name of ColourPaint CodeYear Name of ColourPaint CodeYear BEIGES Brooklands green HAE/169 76-78 Bedouin SAA/4 70-72 Cactus green 15 63-67 BokharaBMD/45681 Conifer green2563-69 Bokhara/YW BMD/45681 Elfin green54-56 Cashmere GMD/422 81-86 Emerald HAC/65 72-75 Honeysuckle NAD/39 72-77 Jade green 52-56 Maple7373-77 Java green HAB/208/8 74-78 Maple/RD AAC/83 73-77 Laurel green 55 69-71 Oyster MAA/22977 Lichfield 45 57-62 Reynard GAB/112 74-78 Mallard 106 71-74 Russet Brown AAE/205/93 76-81 Olive 35 63-67 Sand Glow AAJ/6376-77 Poseiden green HAF/281 78 Sienna23 69-73 Racing green 56-61 Tara green HAD/148 76-77 BLUES GREYS Astral Blue JAF/140 7 5-77 Birch grey 66 Comet Blue Dolphin grey 48 65-71 Cornflower Blue Gunmetal 18 63-69 Cotswold Blue 57 Lavender grey Delft Blue 136/JAB 74-77 Phantom grey 38 58-61 Denim Blue JAH/249 78-82 Silverstone grey 71 Flax Blue Slate grey 68 68-72 French Blue JAA71 72-77 REDS Ice Blue JAC/116 72-75 Carmine CAA/209/82 72-78 Meteor Blue JAK223 80-84 Carnelian red CDE/287 77 Moonraker JNF/424 81-86 Cherry red 22 63-68 NautilusJND/47080-82 Damson 17 68-72 Pagent Blue JAG/22478 Flamenco CAD/133 76-78 Powder Blue 58-62 Magenta 92 72-74 Renoir Blue 46 61-62 Pimento red CAB/204/72 71-76 Royal Blue 5668-68 Pink wisteria Royal Blue/LT56 64-72 Signal red 32 54-71 Sapphire/GN 9671-74 Targo purple Tahiti Blue JAE/65/14 74-77 Vermillion CAE/11877 Valencia Blue 66 67-71 WHITES Wedgewood Blue 26 63-72 Nimbus white 58-61 Zircon Blue JNJ/471 80-85 Pearl/ spa white 53-63 GREENS Porcelain/leyland white NCG/NAF/243 77 Apple green 66-67 Sebring white 59-62 British racing green HAA/254/75 7 Thanks for the paint codes I don't know how to interpret this? Are all these colours coming up with a 254 search! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi Rich As Roger says be careful of standard rattle cans even in the "correct" colour. Depending on how old your paint is it can be miles off. When i needed a rattle can i took an item (vent flap) to my local wholesale automotive paint factors, they scanned it and the scanner gave them the ingredients to mix the colour then it doesn’t matter if someone cocked the paint code up. Usually they can supply tin’s, touch ups or rattle cans (1K) and my colour was spot on. But if it’s a large or a noticeable could well be best left to a professional. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi, according to our records your TR6 had a major rebuild carried out by Northern TR Centre in 1995/96 when it received a reconditioned chassis and a Heritage shell. It also had a colour change to British Racing Green from its then colour of Silver Grey. Prior to that it had been Red. The commission plate as noted by others is not an original and was presumably changed for a reproduction plate during its rebuild. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, saffrontr said: Hi, according to our records your TR6 had a major rebuild carried out by Northern TR Centre in 1995/96 when it received a reconditioned chassis and a Heritage shell. It also had a colour change to British Racing Green from its then colour of Silver Grey. Prior to that it had been Red. The commission plate as noted by others is not an original and was presumably changed for a reproduction plate during its rebuild. If so I may know who painted it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Wow you know more about my car than I do!! Please tell me more!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Kevo_6 said: +1 Font and size looks wrong to me too. +2 I have looked at my name plate and have to agree with Kevo, my font size is much larger and the impression of the stamping much deeper. Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Thanks aston I don't think there is any doubt anymore that the name plate is not original. I knew the car had had a new body shell as I have the receipt. I didn't know it wasn't the original colour and I'm not sure how I feel about this. I googled the paint code when I looked at the car, saw BRG in the search results but didn't open the page and thought no more. Ironically I love the colour but as you can tell I'm not a Triumph expert. The car is a credit to the Northern TR Centre as it is still in excellent condition 20+ years later. I am intrigued to learn more from ntc as to who painted it and from saffrontr as to how they know so much about my car and any more info. Thanks again aston for taking the time to post a reply to me Regards Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ntc Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Richmac said: Thanks aston I don't think there is any doubt anymore that the name plate is not original. I knew the car had had a new body shell as I have the receipt. I didn't know it wasn't the original colour and I'm not sure how I feel about this. I googled the paint code when I looked at the car, saw BRG in the search results but didn't open the page and thought no more. Ironically I love the colour but as you can tell I'm not a Triumph expert. The car is a credit to the Northern TR Centre as it is still in excellent condition 20+ years later. I am intrigued to learn more from ntc as to who painted it and from saffrontr as to how they know so much about my car and any more info. Thanks again aston for taking the time to post a reply to me Regards Richard Hi Richard It might be you lucky day as I have done some homework on the car for you, before I put you in contact with the chap what date is on the paperwork ? and the plate I have more info for you but I will not post info on here. Regards Neil Edited April 18, 2020 by ntc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Thanks Neil much appreciated. By paperwork do you mean invoice for work at TR Northern? This is 08.02.1995. By the plate I posted a picture or do you mean another plate? I tried to PM you but apparently your not contactable this way. Hopefully you can PM me Thanks again for your help Regards Richard Edited April 18, 2020 by Richmac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Hi Richard, There have been three previous owners of your TR in the TR Register over the years the first from 1993. To find out the original build details of your TR6 you can get a Heritage certificate from the British Motor Museum at https://certificates.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/certificate/. This certificate will give you details of the original colour, trim, engine number, build date, where it was despatched to, original options etc. The original commission plate for your TR6 should be as per the following one which is the correct style for your TR. There have been many variances of the plates over the years and blank reproduction ones can be obtained from Roger Hinds who has had the majority of the different styles reproduced. You will still need to have it stamped. I can supply contact details for Roger if you send me a PM. regards Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Hi Derek Thank you for this but replacing the plate is not high on my list at the moment. However I am intrigued by how the club knew it it had had a major rebuild, where, using what parts and when? Regards Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcreweread Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Richard - each TR model has a Registrar whose job it is to keep records of all members cars, when and if members submit details - Derek ( SaffronTR) is the TR6 Registrar so he has access to all the historical records and info submitted by previous owners - hence why Derek perhaps knows more about your car than you do - I am sure it you ask him he will happy to provide more info cheers Rich Edited April 18, 2020 by rcreweread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richmac Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Thank Rich I will send him a PM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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