rvwp Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hi Guys, I believe that the rear over riders on the TR4a have support brackets. These from the Moss catalogue are part numbers 616120 (LH) and 616121 (RH). Apparently different to the TR4 arrangement. These are currently NCA, and there was only remnants of these on my over riders, just the end on the over rider, the bracket having been twisted off! Can anybody provide a picture of these support brackets and perhaps dimensions. Pretty sure something can be made up given this information. Thanks Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Morning Rich photo below shows overdrive brackets 49. 56. I do not have them on my TR4a, I have just had a look at the car and there are no fixing points on the overrides. Others may be along with a better answer than mine soon. Mike Redrose Group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcreweread Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Mike - Rich was referring to the rear over riders - I'll see if I can find some to photo and see if spare - I'm fairly confident they are handed as well Cheers Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brenda Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Whoops photo below shows rear bumper 10. 67. I don’t have front or back. Mike. Redrose group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, brenda said: Whoops photo below shows rear bumper 10. 67. I don’t have front or back. Mike. Redrose group 4a only has them on the rear, theyre relatively easy to make from tube cut lengthways if you cant get any. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcreweread Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Rich - had a hunt around and found a handed pair which as Stuart says could be made, albeit not easy to replicate exactly. Hopefully photos below with the measurements will help - if you haven't got these bits, have you got all the other brackets - there are 2 each side and have you also got the wing support brackets which I'm guessing the nearside one is number 28 in the diagram above although you can't see the numbers - these are handed as well . Hope this helps Cheers Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 The overrider support brackets in your pictures are not in fact a pair Rich. The brackets used on the 4A and 5 have a smaller U section than those on the TR4. The lower bracket in your first picture is from a 4 and the upper one a later car. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverfox4 Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 I Purchased these for the 4A, from TRF a few months back (made in the UK) so a little surprised if not readily available. Cheers, Alf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcreweread Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 20 hours ago, tim hunt said: The overrider support brackets in your pictures are not in fact a pair Rich. The brackets used on the 4A and 5 have a smaller U section than those on the TR4. The lower bracket in your first picture is from a 4 and the upper one a later car. Tim Tim - thanks for clarifying my photos - I never even noticed the U channel width was different on the pair in the photograph - I do have 4 of these brackets but the only pair are the wider TR4 ones - the other TR4A ones are both the same hand ( not sure which hand is which to be honest!) However, whilst the "U" channel widths are different on the two sets, in all other respects they appear the same, so presumably they are interchangeable, or have I missed something? Cheers Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 To be honest Rich the only reason I knew of the difference is that I have a mis-matched pair on my car, so I know that they are interchangeable as regards length and offset. I spotted it years ago when I removed the brackets to repaint them. I have never changed one and they must have been on the car when my father acquired it in 1970. Maybe an old stock one stock slipped through and was fitted at manufacture. I don't loose any sleep over it, not being a polisher but I reckon even the keenest concours judge could probably miss it! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 They also look very similar to the spitfire 1500 radiator support brackets which are available in stainless steel from various suppliers, think I had a set from Canley Classics, I'm sure they can be adapted. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Trickett Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi, I've just found these are missing off my TR250. I have all the others. These don't seem to be available at Moss and £27 each at Rimmers. They don't look very substantial so I was thinking a bit of bent bar would suffice. Has anyone else done this? Thanks Eddie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meesonia Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Found some pics of mine during strip down Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tthomson Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Interesting, I know that my TR4A does not have these fitted. (Mainly because I fitted LED reversing lights last year and did not have to remove anything remotely similar), maybe I should follow Stuart's advice and make some from metal tubing. I am fairly sure these were never on my TR since I bought it in 1981. TT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, tthomson said: Interesting, I know that my TR4A does not have these fitted. (Mainly because I fitted LED reversing lights last year and did not have to remove anything remotely similar), maybe I should follow Stuart's advice and make some from metal tubing. I am fairly sure these were never on my TR since I bought it in 1981. TT You`ll find when fitting them why they often got left off Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tthomson Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, stuart said: You`ll find when fitting them why they often got left off Stuart. Thanks for the warning! TT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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