EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, TwinCamJohn said: Yes, but we have SP98 with 5%, although I accept it is not at all pumps. Exactly. I only run 98 in the landy and the TR3. It's easy to find (for now...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, EliTR6 said: I'm more interested in making sure she's doesn't go up in flames right now. Will sort out the fuel tap and the tired loom before thinking about air filters. And she pulls like a train already! Quite right. A battery emergency switch onder dash a sensible cheap precaution, widely adopted these days. New silicone pipes joints, glass inline fuel filter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, David Brancaleone said: Quite right. A battery emergency switch onder dash a sensible cheap precaution, widely adopted these days. New silicone pipes joints, glass inline fuel filter I've fitted the switch. Fuel lines will happen soon. I've been reading through the invoices left by the PO. It was shipped new to the US in 1956 when it was beige with a red interior. Must have returned to the UK in late 80s/1990 as there is an invoice for floor pans and inner sills in 1990. The PO must have spent a few years restoring the car as the earliest MOT in the file is for 1995 with a mileage of just 2mi! It had a full engine rebuild in 2002 but had only covered 5000mi since when i bought it. It seems like it had some overheating problems with a suspected blown head gasket in 2005 but I don't know what the outcome of this was. It has a competition water pump and starter motor, narrow belt pulley, a later TR3A head (diagonal slant under thermostat housing), TR4 stainless manifold, mild 3TY piper cam and HS6 carbs from a dollie sprint (fzx1257). I was told that it's a stage 2 head and capacity is 2.2L but I've got no real information on the internals or head spec. There is a much older invoice for a full engine balance and a crank regrind (still only 7000 miles ago). Pulls very well, doesn't use oil or water and everything feels nice and tight. No shakes or rattles. MPG was 27mpg on the trip home from Manchester driving at 60mph (no overdrive) and many hours of horrendous London traffic. I've already put 500mi on the car which is more than the PO managed in 2 years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, EliTR6 said: I'm more interested in making sure she's doesn't go up in flames right now. Will sort out the fuel tap and the tired loom before thinking about air filters. And she pulls like a train already! To me So much work has been done. Extra power, surely with a view to rally and hillclimb? Wasted potential not to, in my opinion. The fact you don't have scuttle shake is very reassuring. Many do. Suggests a solid restoration. I agree with you. Best to prioritize. Deal with any safety issues first (not a bad idea to invest in a fire extinguisher), harness. Check tyres for age, perishing hoses, typical of cars which live in a time warp from component replacement during restoration to whenever now is. The basis is very promising: state of engine sounds great and body sound. You can check oil pressure and do other tests, such as rolling road, to establish accurate HP figure and torque. I was referring to brake hoses as well. And distributor leads and cap. Anything not worn out through use, but perishable, perished or flawed. Edited March 9, 2020 by David Brancaleone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, EliTR6 said: I'm more interested in making sure she's doesn't go up in flames right now. Will sort out the fuel tap and the tired loom before thinking about air filters. And she pulls like a train already! To me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, David Brancaleone said: TS no.? Date of build? An early TR3? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, David Brancaleone said: TS no.? Date of build? An early TR3? 12 minutes ago, David Brancaleone said: So much work has been done. Extra power, surely with a view to rally and hillclimb? Wasted potential not to, in my opinion. The fact you don't have scuttle shake is very reassuring. Many do. Suggests a solid restoration. I agree with you. Best to prioritize. Deal with any safety issues first (not a bad idea to invest in a fire extinguisher), harness. Check tyres for age, perishing hoses, typical of cars which live in a time warp from component replacement during restoration to whenever now is. The basis is very promising: state of engine sounds great and body sound. You can check oil pressure and do other tests, such as rolling road, to establish accurate HP figure and torque. I was referring to brake hoses as well. And distributor leads and cap. Anything not worn out through use, but perishable, perished or flawed. TS 13737L, rolled off the line on the 22nd of October 1956. Engine is TS 14167E so it could be the original block. I've got a tilt lift stored away at my parents place that will make looking over the car a lot easier. TR Bitz carried gave it a full checkup, a full service and MOTed it too last month. Tyres will have to be changed soon as they are from 2009 (shame as they only have a few thousand miles wear on them). I'm not fussed about hp numbers as long as it feels fast but I love finding out the history of the car. My Land Rover (1970) was used to pull hot air balloons in Bristol at some point and there's a sticker for Mr Cameron's Balloons on the back. My dad filmed Mr Cameron in the late 60s/early 70s, a pretty crazy coincidence. Thanks for the friendly advice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Here's the beast. 1970, 2.6 inline 6 with dormobile conversion. She is a thirsty girl, the tr3 is a cheap date by comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I got hold of the cam specs. Looks pretty fast road to me! Vroom vroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, EliTR6 said: I got hold of the cam specs. Looks pretty fast road to me! Vroom vroom Eli, to be honest, it's double-Dutch to me! Can you translate the figs. Into words for those less knowledgeable, please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, David Brancaleone said: Eli, to be honest, it's double-Dutch to me! Can you translate the figs. Into words for those less knowledgeable, please? David, same for me but the numbers are higher than those of the stock TR3 and TR4 specs and similar to those of the Revington Fast Road cam on this page: https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/TriumphCams.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 We the Maestro, Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 16 hours ago, EliTR6 said: Eli What is going on with the dashpot on your front carb? It looks to be 90° out of line which ofcourse is not possible unless its the wrong item. George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, harlequin said: Eli What is going on with the dashpot on your front carb? It looks to be 90° out of line which ofcourse is not possible unless its the wrong item. George Don't panic I have just found a set of HS6 in my shed that are exactly the same as yours, I know my set is right as I bought them new from Burlen years ago Edited March 9, 2020 by harlequin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I think you will find that is correct - here are mine Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Lebro said: I think you will find that is correct - here are mine Bob Bob, excuse my ignorance, but why do fuel line hoses connect to rocker cover? Not oil-rich air to lubricate rocker? I have seen catch tank breather pipe connected to rocker cover. But that serves for oil lubrication, I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Not fuel line hoses, the HS6's were on offer back in the 70's from Cox & Buckles spares, brand new for a silly low price. Re-jetted for TR's they were a bargain not to resist ! They were originally setup for the Austin Allegro Sport (yes, I know), and as such had additional ports on the manifold side of the carbs which were blanked off for TR use. Much later I discovered that these ports were intended to suck crankcase fumes back into the intake, a simpler version of the PCV valve fitted to later TR's. Having learnt that, I plumbed them up, as you can see, & it all works very well. Bob. Edited March 9, 2020 by Lebro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harlequin Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hi Bob Yes completely correct, I was having a senior half hour. My TR3 has H6 carbs which ofcourse have both of the little vent things on the front George Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lebro said: Not fuel line hoses, the HS6's were on offer back in the 70's from Cox & Buckles spares, brand new for a silly low price. Re-jetted for TR's they were a bargain not to resist ! They were originally setup for the Austin Allegro Sport (yes, I know), and as such had additional ports on the manifold side of the carbs which were blanked off. Much later I discovered that these ports were intended to suck crankcase fumes back into the intake, a simpler version of the PCV valve fitted to later TR's. Having learnt that, I plumbed them up, as you can see, & it all works very well. Bob. Thank you. So it sounds like a practical mod then. But forgive me for asking, I am a genuine ignoramus, the crankase? Isn't that where the crank is situated? But the rubber hoses are connected to the rocker cover? I don't understand. But feel free to ignore my ignorance. Fumes would be hot air. Not as good as thicker, cold air. Is that correct? So.. confusion still reigns in my brain box. Edited March 9, 2020 by David Brancaleone Typos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
friarmike Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) that cam is warmed up but not too hot. there shouldn't be much roughness at tick over if at all. When you get past 270 in duration things start getting rough at low rpms then SNAP its comes on like gang busters as we say in the usa. Edited March 9, 2020 by friarmike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EliTR6 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, friarmike said: that cam is warmed up but not too hot. there shouldn't be much roughness at tick over if at all. When you get past 270 in duration things start getting rough at low rpms then SNAP its comes on like gang busters as we say in the usa. Great, thanks for confirming. Went for a drive at lunchtime today with a GPS speedo open on my phone. Speedo is pretty much spot-on. The ease with which the car reaches 80mph is impressive. Braaap Braaap Braaap! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris59 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 11:39 AM, Kiwifrog said: Hi Chris Its Wonderful that your old 4X4 managed to find its way home without a driver years ahead of the Google autonomous car experiements, you should have patented the idea Chris you would be a billionaire by now Alan Well, I should have mentioned the ghost driver was called "Régis" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidBee Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 But how do you get the numbers? Where from? Info when you buy such a cam a chart that comes with the box? Ie. Not originated through tests? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifrog Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 hours ago, TwinCamJohn said: Yes, but we have SP98 with 5%, although I accept it is not at all pumps. John i live in the Dordogne and 98 with 5% is getting harder to find , as I was replacing the fuel lines as part of the resto I thought it would pay to future proof the car cheers Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinCamJohn Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 There is as well the SP95 E5. Perhaps you can find that easier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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