Keith66 Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hi All Just a quick note to moan about poor parts, doh. When I dismantled my poor old 6 I notice the grille badge was a little scabby. Decided I didn’t want one of the foil things so hunted for an Enameled one, but not expensive. And I found a new one locally, some guy selling all sorts of spares out of his shed, looked great. Not 100% but nice enough, lettering a bit thin but hey bargain, Yeah. Until that is a found it does not fit the mounting plinth, because it’s just not curved correctly. GRRRR. Trouble is because it enameled and the black is basically glass is I force it to ben it will just crack and I’ll be back to square one. Can’t remember exactly where the guy was and it was ages ago so lesson learned. I suppose I could fit it anyway as who looks that close at the grille. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 I bought one like that off eBay, hoped that tightening the nut up would draw it onto the plinth, no such luck, I ended up buying another that was curved enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk2 Chopper Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 I had one and snapped one of the studs off due to its shape. In the end I set about bending it (very) slowly by strapping it over a curved shape that I increased over a few days and left it secured in an angle slightly more than I needed so that it sprung back into the correct curve and chemical metalled or araldited the stud on so I could at least fit it until I picked up a better one, guess what it's still on there now some time later. I don't know if you sorted another one, but I'd be willing to buy it (cheap) and have a go at bending it as I think the stud has broken loose again on mine. Gareth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Can the enameling be heated to allow to bend? Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith1948 Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Get a piece of aluminium cut to same size as the badge and thickness same as the gap each side between badge and plinth. Then gradually file away the aluminium from the centre to the outside so the middle is thinner than the outside edges. Eventually you will have shaped the piece of aluminium so when it fits between the badge and the mounting plinth it will fit without having to bend the badge. If you try to bend the badge you will almost certainly crack it. Polish up the edges of the aluminium and you won't notice it has been modified. Keith good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harbottle Posted February 11, 2020 Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Keith When you bend it(if you can) you will also alter the angle of the two studs/pins. Even if it does not break on bending, once fitted the strain put on it when driving may well cause it to go anyway. Just a thought Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 Hi All Couple of good ideas. Not sure about the bending thing as the enamel is basically glass so to become flexible i think it would need to be very hot and not sure how easy that would be to achive and not over heat, But got some ideas to try and i'll see how it goes. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matttnz Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 18 hours ago, keith1948 said: Get a piece of aluminium cut to same size as the badge and thickness same as the gap each side between badge and plinth. Then gradually file away the aluminium from the centre to the outside so the middle is thinner than the outside edges. Eventually you will have shaped the piece of aluminium so when it fits between the badge and the mounting plinth it will fit without having to bend the badge. If you try to bend the badge you will almost certainly crack it. Polish up the edges of the aluminium and you won't notice it has been modified. Keith good luck This makes the most sense to me. As long as it doesn't cost more than a decent badge of course... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Another hint: do not use ANY force when tightening the nuts. I planned to use Loctite to avoid the nuts working loosr, and only applied a bit more than “finger tight” and this is what happened on my old (original?) badge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 Hi All Well after the tribulations with my new, well replacement enamel TR6 Badge I decide to take a leaf out of Ed H’s book and refurb my old one. He sets out on his site how he did his and I’ve given it a go and mine now looks, well, ok. Ed’s is much more flamboyant due to the body colour and his end product is def superior to mine, but I’m happy enough with mine warts and all, which you can see in the pic. As its Sapphire Blue, so darkish, those warts will be hardly noticeable when it is mounted on the car, low’ish down in a bit of shadow. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark_smugglers Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Looks great Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Thanks for that Mark. I'm reasonably happy with it and it a huge improvement to how it looked in the pic in my original post, but its not perfect. You can see the imperfections in the paint in places around the chrome, both of the letters and the surround, but hey not to shabby for rattle cans and some clearcoat. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 Hi Keith, I’m tempted to do the same on my damaged badge (see my picture above). Did you use 2K paint, and were you able to get some “thickness”? Thanks, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Hi Waldi I used 1K paint and a 1K lacquer, but supplied by a trade paint supplier that mixed it from a scan of my paint and put it in an aerosol can. I took the scuttle panel in and the match is very good. To get the depth i just used many coats of colour and lots of coats of lacquer. Spraying and getting a good finish is not to diff, but as they always say the end results really depend on the preparation and thats where i fell down a little. You really really need to get every last bit of the enamel off and thats not easy, but crucial and then ideally the primer needs to be really really neat. Both of those things are not perfect on mine (i thought they were ok) but now the colour and lacquer are on you can see the imprefections. But its not bad enough to do again and being on the grille and abit out of the way it shouldn't be too noticable. But worth the effort and nothing to lose if the badge is old and scabby. Ed H's site (if you know it) has a good explanation with photo's as a guide. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Hi Keith, Thanks for that, it’s on my list of things to do. Worth a go as you show and little to loose. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jogger321 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 I'm sure I read somewhere of somebody offering a proper restoration service for the original enamel badges? Probably not cheap but possibly a whole lot better than some of these awful "pattern" badges around? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 There are plenty of places that will refurbish the enameling (eg. http://www.vaughtons.com/refurbishment-repairs/ ) The one that used to get aired on here had a womans name i'm sure. Expensive but very good. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) Has anyone tried the Moss item? It looks ok from the picture on their website, but is the curving correct on this one so it follows the holder? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/badge-tr6-enamelled-625662z.html Thanks, Waldi Edited March 2, 2020 by Waldi Link did not work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 hours ago, RogerH said: There are plenty of places that will refurbish the enameling (eg. http://www.vaughtons.com/refurbishment-repairs/ ) The one that used to get aired on here had a womans name i'm sure. Expensive but very good. Roger Pamela David Enamels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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