iani Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 My joy at getting a good result on the day I has now been tempered by a breakdown, does this look like it could be the stub axle? I can’t fit my jack underneath to check it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) More likely the lower inner wishbone box mount has broken away from the chassis Im afraid. Stuart. Edited December 20, 2019 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, stuart said: More likely the lower inner wishbone box mount has broken away from the chassis Im afraid. Stuart. They look to be intact Stuart, from what I can see from engine side anyway. I have just rebuilt this side, only the stub axle wasn’t changed. Edited December 20, 2019 by iani Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi Ian, looking at the way the top is tilted in could it be the top ball joint or associated parts. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Tried winching car onto recover truck and the wheel fell off, luckily no damage. This was a good S/H hub from Revington’s along with their studs & nuts. The nuts had been done up tightly & loctite applied, all four nuts had unwound. I obviously pulled over just in time, this could have been a very nasty experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Was there any paint between the hub and adaptor? The interface needs to be bare metal to bare metal. Was the hub fitted with the correct short studs? Edited December 20, 2019 by Drewmotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Drewmotty said: Was there any paint between the hub and adaptor? The interface needs to be bare metal to bare metal. The hub has been painted black at some point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) Paint in such interfaces can fret away and once there is even a few of thou movement the resulting vibration will soon loosen the wheel nuts. The a large proportion of the load bearing is friction between the flat faces resulting from the compression of the nuts rather than shear loading through the studs. Edited December 20, 2019 by Drewmotty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 How are the nuts on the driver's side? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike C said: How are the nuts on the driver's side? Haven't touched them Mike, I rebuilt the N/S whilst my car was off the road during the EFI conversion, the O/S was against the garage wall and hasn't been touched. I elected to change my perfectly ok wire wheel studs for larger ones with spacers so I could possibly change the wheels in the future, I really wish I hadn't bothered as I have had a fair bit of trouble with them, I will have a good look tomorrow but I think I need to junk the spacers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Spacers shouldn’t present a problem Ian. I run long studs with spacers on both my cars and haven’t had a problem. Are the spacers the full contact type with just the four holes to suit the studs? Multi fit spacers with slotted holes may not provide as secure a location. How’s you’re torque wrench? Is it actually reaching the required 65 lbf? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi Ian, did the spacers provide centering? If not, the hub could slide causing the nuts to become loose. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Falcrum pin ripped of the shock absorber dome. Be careful about the coil spring when you lift the car. Ciao, Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Z320 said: Falcrum pin ripped of the shock absorber dome. Be careful about the coil spring when you lift the car. Ciao, Marco The safety warning from Marco is a very good point. If the spring can release its energy, like when jumping out, it can seriously hurt you. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 With "be careful" I meen: - be prepared anything is moving when you lift the car - don't try to hold what is moving with your hands or body Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, Z320 said: With "be careful" I meen: - be prepared anything is moving when you lift the car - don't try to hold what is moving with your hands or body ...................get someone else to hold it !!!!!!! Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvark Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 If it is the fulcrum pin bracket then you should be able to see damage to the inner wing by lifting the bonnet. whatever it is, commiserations Ian. Did you hit a pothole or just driving normally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Looks like you stopped in the nick of time, could have been a lot more serious. Hope you managed to avoid any other damage Darren Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) I believe I’ve found the cause, the pic shows the rear of one wire wheel adaptor bolt hole, the other three are similar. I expect this damage was caused during my previous incident with the adaptor coming loose. I popped over to TRGB this morning and have now fitted a new wire wheel adaptor, studs & nuts. A very lucky escape I think. Edited December 21, 2019 by iani Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 hours ago, aardvark said: If it is the fulcrum pin bracket then you should be able to see damage to the inner wing by lifting the bonnet. whatever it is, commiserations Ian. Did you hit a pothole or just driving normally? I was on a fair few rural roads and there were a lot of potholes, the weather was awful and there was a lot of standing water so I couldn't see the holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) I had a slack wire wheel adaptor some years ago because one of the previous owners painted the hubs. This made an unbearable KLOCK-KLOCK-KLOCK..., long before the adaptor was really slack - and without anything visible or even tactile on the wheel. ........ Edited December 21, 2019 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted December 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Z320 said: I had a slack wire wheel adaptor some years ago because one of the previous owners painted the hubs. This made an unbearable KLOCK-KLOCK-KLOCK..., long before the adaptor was really slack - and without anything visible or even tactile on the wheel. ........ I drove c.85 miles to Emerald without issue, this happened around 10 miles into the return journey, the sound was like the wheel bearing was loose so I pulled over. I had driven over a few miles of really rough road, I wouldn't have noticed the issue on those roads I suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CP26309 Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Scary! In 47 yrs of driving my wire wheel shod six l’ve not had the adapter nuts come loose and never torqued them up or Loctighted them! Well done for pulling over! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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