mikegush Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I know - tyres again ! Interested to get views on popular tyre for road and track - Not interested in long life or cheapest ! 5.5J wires - so 165 x15 or 185 x15 ? Michelin XAS Avon ZZ Vredestein I know is liked for road use. Head below parapet ! Thanks Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I know - tyres again ! Interested to get views on popular tyre for road and track - Not interested in long life or cheapest ! 5.5J wires - so 165 x15 or 185 x15 ? Michelin XAS Avon ZZ Vredestein I know is liked for road use. Head below parapet ! Thanks Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4Mal Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I had Avon ZZ on my TR4 for years. They don't last the longest, but I loved them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/maxsport-rb5-tarmac-rally-tyre-247193/ 185/55x15 in hard compound for track days etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Hamish - thanks. How is it in the wet !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Neil Revington was waxing lyrical about Maxsport when he did the Targa Tasmania this year, couldn't believe how good they were in the wet. Which ones? you would need to ask him. I use Vreds! Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thanks Iain - I see Hamish also likes Vredestein Sprints ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have used the maxsport in sprints etc and work well by are very low profile so will affect your gearing. I did one wet shelsely Walsh and the maxsport were ok. But I was tentative on them. They come in different compounds and full dry to full wet and gravel. As you noticed I use Vredestein sprint classic on the road. This video at a very wet castle Combe is on the sprint classics and they were brand new !! And inspired confidence. But then I don’t have much power. in the dry they grip well but that contributed to tyre lean/roll. but I’m probably over tyre’d as I have 185 width. So no drifting for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, mikegush said: I know - tyres again ! Interested to get views on popular tyre for road and track - Not interested in long life or cheapest ! 5.5J wires - so 165 x15 or 185 x15 ? Michelin XAS Avon ZZ Vredestein I know is liked for road use. Head below parapet ! Thanks Mike If durability or cost not a problem, then a more 'racing' tyre should be considered. Not that Yokohama A048s are expensive. Available in suitable sizes, AND in 'Medium', 'Soft' and 'SuperSoft' treads, they provide superb grip, even in the Medium I race on. One set lasts a season of about six, 40 non races. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j-eichert Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) On a track day in July we almost "melted" the tyres - in the Pictures you see Vredestein T-Trac2 Regards, Johannes Edited December 4, 2019 by j-eichert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Quite normal for almost all tyres Johannes whether racing or road, you can see quite clearly where the "tread blocks" have been deformed smearing the compound across the surface. If they were "buffed" tyres with only a couple of mm left on the tread or slicks the tyre surface wouldn't have leaned and the compound would not have anywhere to adhere too and would have peeled off forming rubber "marbles" which you normally find on the outside of corners. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j-eichert Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I thought so, Mick - although I was wondering if there are differences between the tyres/ makes. And we all were surprised, that one could get this "result" even with an (almost) standard TR3 or TR6 just by driving to ist limit on a track with long & fast curves. This Picture Shows a reaer tyre - the front ones are less "smeared" - see picture Ok... but that was happening at (only?) an average speed of 90...100km/h - depending on the car (The PI did have more power and wider tyres, giving more cornering Speed) ...but it was an interesting expirience although seeing the same curve more than 40times gets boring somehow. Regards, Johannes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 As distinguished a person as Albert Einstein said that "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." You don't see the same corner over and over again, you try different solutions to the problem of getting round it. Another distinguished person said "Do, or do not, there is no try", but they were wrong. Only the supremely gifted and practiced can approach a new corner and get it right. There is enormous satisfaction in trying speed, gear, position and control until they just right, so that you exit the corner that little bit faster. This is an exercise that can only be done on the track. Otherwise, 'driving' is just sightseeing. JOhn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thanks 4Mal. I'm sure they are a good track tyre but £250 each ...? ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Mike, Naughty! You posted the same Original Post in THREE different forums! Motorsport, 3a and 4! Got me really confused, as the board told me there was a reply, when there wasn't - on the forum I looked at! It was on another. Please don't do it! Put a link on another forum, to take anyone interested to the original one, thus: https://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/71201-track-day-tyres/&tab=comments#comment-648481 Thank you! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Humble Apologies - Newbie ignorance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 You did get different and more responses from your multiple post, so maybe you did well. Or maybe you are even more confused! J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4Mal Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 18 hours ago, mikegush said: Thanks 4Mal. I'm sure they are a good track tyre but £250 each ...? ! They've gone up then..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikegush Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Mal and others Thanks for replies - I've gone for the Avon CR6ZZ 185/70 c £205 each. Hope to meet up somewhere sporty next year ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 .Your money, your choice. Yoko A048s £90 each Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, john.r.davies said: .Your money, your choice. Yoko A048s £90 each What size for the 3a and where from John. Can you post a link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Sorry mistook size but 195/15 @ £121 each at Demon Tweeks J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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