Graham Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Could anybody make me a paper/cardboard template for the fixing holes for the bonnet badge on a TR5 please. I'm selling my TR4 and I think I will get more money for it if I badge it as a TR5 before sale No seriously my project TR5 has been fitted with a TR4 bonnet. I haven't got the £'s, enthusiasm or space yet to pull the trigger on the full restoration so I'm just picking away at the bits and pieces at the moment so a bonnet restoration is in budget within attention span and I should manage to get this done in the shed ! I will need to weld up all the 'TRIUMPH' holes and repair it where its been spilt I assume due to slamming (think Moss do reinforcing plates) but apart from that a quick strip and coat of Bonda Primer, job should be a good'n well average'un as its me but nothing the body shop won't sort out when I do the full monty ! Edited October 16, 2019 by Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I have a paper one I made up a few years ago and you are welcome to borrow it. You have been to me before (Hemel Hempstead) so not far from you. PM me for the address. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave McDonald Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Harry beat me to it. I was just about to post that I have the bonnet off my TR5 so could make a template tomorrow but it seems you're sorted. Dave McD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 hours ago, harrytr5 said: I have a paper one I made up a few years ago and you are welcome to borrow it. You have been to me before (Hemel Hempstead) so not far from you. PM me for the address. Regards Harry 15 hours ago, Dave McDonald said: Harry beat me to it. I was just about to post that I have the bonnet off my TR5 so could make a template tomorrow but it seems you're sorted. Dave McD Thanks Guys, Harry PM sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david ferry Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 I have a sneaking suspicion that the frame underneath was moved to take account of the TR5/250 badge position. I’m in the workshop tomorrow and if you’d like me to see if I have a TR5 bonnet, do let me know. David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, david ferry said: I have a sneaking suspicion that the frame underneath was moved to take account of the TR5/250 badge position. I’m in the workshop tomorrow and if you’d like me to see if I have a TR5 bonnet, do let me know. David Hi Dave yes if you could please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 13 hours ago, david ferry said: I have a sneaking suspicion that the frame underneath was moved to take account of the TR5/250 badge position. I’m in the workshop tomorrow and if you’d like me to see if I have a TR5 bonnet, do let me know. David No it wasnt, they just scalloped extra holes out of the re-enforcing frame to cope with the badge fixings. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david ferry Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Had a look and, as usual, Stuart is correct. I do have 2 TR5/250 bonnets and a number of TR4 bonnets. David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 11:41 AM, david ferry said: I have a sneaking suspicion that the frame underneath was moved to take account of the TR5/250 badge position. I’m in the workshop tomorrow and if you’d like me to see if I have a TR5 bonnet, do let me know. David I think the frame was altered between TR4 and 4A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Looking at the existing, all be it badly filled, holes in my bonnet I think its a 4a one as the fixing holes for the badge appear quite widely vertically spaced so guessing this would be for the 4a 'book' type triumph badge rather than the earlier 'world' badge but possibly i'm wrong ( won't be the last time) and somebody may well tell me they both used the same fixing holes ! But is anybody able to post a photo of what the inside of a genuine 5/250 bonnet looks like where the badge fits please. As the bonnet I have is very good rust wise its just 'lived a little' so trying to decide if the differences make it worth sourcing a new (proper) bonnet or fixing the one I have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Do these help Graham? I believe it to be an original 5 bonnet. Cheers Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter V W Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 The front pin should be located in the centre of the circle as shown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Is mine not an original bonnet then? Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Tim T said: Do these help Graham? I believe it to be an original 5 bonnet. Cheers Tim 2 hours ago, Peter V W said: The front pin should be located in the centre of the circle as shown. Many thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter V W Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Tim T said: Is mine not an original bonnet then? Tim Will try to take a better picture tomorrow, Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 This is an original TR250 bonnet, hope it helps. Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter V W Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Thanks Graeme, yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Next question could anybody let me know what size the fixing holes are supposed to be and what the diameter of the cut outs in the reinforcing ribs are please ATB Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim T Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Well mine are 4mm and 15mm diameters. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Yes 4mm and the rubber/plastic plugs pushed into the holes first then the badge pins pushed in. I used a dab of clear silicone to stop prying fingers removing it. Regards Harry TR5 Nutter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Tim T said: Well mine are 4mm and 15mm diameters. Tim 3 hours ago, harrytr5 said: Yes 4mm and the rubber/plastic plugs pushed into the holes first then the badge pins pushed in. I used a dab of clear silicone to stop prying fingers removing it. Regards Harry TR5 Nutter Thanks Guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 Graham, Are you sorted now? I have in my files some photos with tape measurements of the TR250 badge location on the bonnet. I’m assuming the TR5 badge is in the same location? I can post the photos if required. Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted November 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 7 hours ago, M. Pied Lourd said: Graham, Are you sorted now? I have in my files some photos with tape measurements of the TR250 badge location on the bonnet. I’m assuming the TR5 badge is in the same location? I can post the photos if required. Cheers Tush Tush I have a template for the badge and some measurements where it should go but if you have any photo's would be much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted November 23, 2019 Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 Ok, borrowed from another forum and saved to my files for my own reference...not sure who’s car this is but thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted November 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, M. Pied Lourd said: Ok, borrowed from another forum and saved to my files for my own reference...not sure who’s car this is but thank you! Many thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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