Willie Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hi Everyone, Why do I always find jobs not referred to in various workshop manuals?? Yesterday on a good hill climbing day out in S Wales more than once we experienced very obvious bottoming out. I was trying to assess if the bump stops have turned round with the raised surfaces pointing to front/back instead of up/down. The parts book seems to show the shoulders [with the hole] pointing upwards. Can anyone supply a decent shot or diagram which will give me confidence to know I have got it right? Also, I am considering fitting poly bumps. Is this a good idea? I attach a shot of the NS which shows the hole in the bump stop pointing backwards not downwards. Should the rubber be under the check strap? Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chilliman Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Under the check strap pointing upwards..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Beat me to it. In the WSM for the 4 and 4A pub number 510322, it shows on page 4.113 the hole should be uppermost and inside the bump stop hoop, not what actually hold it in that position. I could send a photo if needed. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Thanks Gents. John - yes please - send a pic to confirm, and maybe help others! Best wishes Willie Edited June 10, 2019 by Willie Nickname Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Willie as others have said, directly under the check straps with the hole at 12 O, Clock, i also found wiring them alone meant they rotated, now fixed with silicone on the axle tube and strong cable ties. never moved. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Many thanks John. Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Pictures from WSM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Willie Posted June 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Very many thanks John. I think that answers all my concerns. Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John L Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 In the first picture it shows the hoop fitted on the inner side of the shock arm, but the second picture shows it on the outside of the shock arm Choices? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Think that's the angle of the drawings, can't remember it being anything other than obvious , the orientation when fitting. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 I took a few pics on both sides. Here are the clear shots of the slightly differing issues both sides. NS - outboard & turned 90 degrees OS - slid inboard. Poly units on order and silicone lined up! Once again, my grateful thanks to everyone who contributed. Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Willie said: I took a few pics on both sides. Here are the clear shots of the slightly differing issues both sides. NS - outboard & turned 90 degrees OS - slid inboard. Poly units on order and silicone lined up! Once again, my grateful thanks to everyone who contributed. Willie Is it me or should that handbrake cable be below the brake pipe Bracket and held away from the brake pipe by a spring attached to the trans/propshaft tunnel? cheers Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Vital that handbrake cable is kept clear of hydraulic flexible - a good MOT man ought to spot this and insist that something must be done to ensure separation, remembering that the axle can move up and down whilst motoring. If the handbrake cable were to rub the hydraulic flexible, it would wear through the armouring and then the inner, leading to brake failure. I cannot comment on routing as my hydraulic connection is taken through the right side of the body, alongside the sill (so that it cannot be ripped off) and the handbrake is mounted on the prop.shaft tunnel. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Thank you Peter & Ian - I'll address that when I replace the bump stop - when/if it ever stops raining!! Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Could be a long wait, Willie! Meanwhile, follow Noah and construct an ark! Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Hi All, Supplementary question. Bump stops replaced. Today I repositioned the handbrake cable to remove risk of contact with brake hose. Attached and shots before and after. Where does the spring go? Currently the cable is relying on the stiffness of the outer cable from where it passes through the chassis rail to the fulcrum arm. Try as I might, I just couldn't locate anywhere it would go to hold the cable in any position!! Advice gratefully received. Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quicksilver Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Hi Willie, I had a small piece of wire at the floorpan/ bottom plate there is a original metal tab see foto.sorry it is upsidedown. Edited June 17, 2019 by Quicksilver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quicksilver Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Lets try it again, Marcel. Edited June 17, 2019 by Quicksilver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thanks Marcel. Obviously the wire was in that section between exit from chassis aperture and pivot arm. Not being serious, the most obvious spot was the prop rear U/J!! Shot of spring attached - wide end cradles the outer cable, but the barrow hook's location is beyond me! Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Willie, There is a very small tab attached to the chassis (Or is it the body) near the transmission tunnel, that the other end of the spring attaches to. I only know this because I’ve spent ages looking under the car at other things and found that “tab” and wondered what it was there for. Mine is a 3A, but I guess the 4 is similar. Seek and ye shall find. (Unless the bloke in the factory who was supposed to weld it on forgot to do it. Or it has been knocked off by a passing boulder.) Charlie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thanks Charlie. Methinks that boulder got in on the act. I looked and fumbled all over the rear end where my newly liberated cable might want to flap aboiut, but nothing! I even wondered if the narrow end of the spring attached to the greasing point on the outer cable, but there was still nowhere for the larger end to go!! Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Willie said: Thanks Charlie. Methinks that boulder got in on the act. I looked and fumbled all over the rear end where my newly liberated cable might want to flap aboiut, but nothing! I even wondered if the narrow end of the spring attached to the greasing point on the outer cable, but there was still nowhere for the larger end to go!! Best wishes Willie Marcels picture above shows the rough location of the small tab for the spring to attach to, its on the body at the rear lowest edge of the tunnel on the right hand side often lost when replacing floors badly. The larger end of the spring then just cradles the cable by the grease nipple. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willie Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Many thanks Stuart. Next time I have the back end jacked, I'll focus my search there! Best wishes Willie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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