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37 minutes ago, Z320 said:

Hi Andrew,

sorry, I have no permission to read your post.

What I wanted to do is to lead this unfortune discussion back to your intetion: your Europa trip.

Because in my opinion the direction of the clip does not mater at all. BTW: on the Volkswagen beetle they are round cylinders - good for no discussion.

Folks, please don't be angry with me: this is "druid knowledge", you better trow rabbit bones.

Ciao, Marco

Hi Marco,

Here's the outline route (minus local drive-outs and diversions) for you and other non-members:

Portsmouth to Santander and return via Calais - Dover

Santander, Spain - Lenno, Italy:

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Lenno, lake Como - Lake Lucern (via the Furka Pass) - Calais

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Cheers, Andrew

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Hi Andrew,

great tour, shure you know next to Santa Margherita Ligure (Italy) is the small village "Portofino".

Make a visit there lovely place, harbour, houses, but take "some" money with you.

Lago di Como is GREAT and your Albergo Lenno is next to the Villa del Balbianello !!!!!

You MUST take a boat tour from the harbor to the villa, if you are well by feet you can walk.

I add you a photo from 2 years ago from the Villa's harbour.

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And only some miles north visit the Villa Carlotta and smell the lemon and orange trees,

special the "Chinotto" (kind of Seville orange).

Lucky man!

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Z320 said:

Hi Andrew,

great tour, shure you know next to Santa Margherita Ligure (Italy) is the small village "Portofino".

Make a visit there lovely place, harbour, houses, but take "some" money with you.

Lago di Como is GREAT and your Albergo Lenno is next to the Villa del Balbianello !!!!!

You MUST take a boat tour from the harbor to the villa, if you are well by feet you can walk.

I add you a photo from 2 years ago from the Villa's harbour.

IMG_2163-b.thumb.JPG.fe10e2aed609965ed2a579a11e477438.JPG

And only some miles north visit the Villa Carlotta and smell the lemon and orange trees,

special the "Chinotto" (kind of Seville orange).

Lucky man!

 

Thanks Marco, useful info.

Cheers, Andrew

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While reading this thread I notice that the linings on the brake shoes does not fully cover the shoe. This appears to be correct for all TRs except my 10" Girling back brakes. i am having my shoes recovered by a specialist and I am thinking of having the linings made shorter, in the hope that this will make my handbrake adjustment work for the first time in many years.

Please help with some advice Thanks 

Richard and B.

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Hi Richard,

I don’t think the length of the brake shoe friction material matters much for hand brake force.

Other aspects do:

1 When you actuate the hand brake, the wheel cylinders should slide freely, so both shoes are pressed against the brake drum, and no force is lost in resistance. A known issue is when the lever has worn a bit of the back-plate, so when the HB is activated, only one shoe is effectively braking.

If the cylinder can move free AND there is no lost energy (force) there that is the first “win”. This was recently shared by Stuart in another post.

2 Another area is the cable and it’s routing. Marco or Jochem has shown a good analysis / idea in the past on the pivot point which is where the cable is fixed on the trailing arm. The geometry is far from perfect there.

3 Some have relocated the hole where the brake cable fits in the lever, closer to the pivot point, this is a smart idea at small cost. Off course, the stroke (number of clicks) will increase.

Waldi

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Hi all,

Getting packed ready for the trip to Osnabruck. As you can see my route is the oppsite of Andrews, Google tells me it is 2,250 Kms from my house in the Costa Blanca. and should be 2,250 kms back again, we shall see. This is what I am packing for now. More to go inside the boot.

Kind Regards,

Dave from a hot sunny Spain

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Hi Richard,

the drum brake is self-energizing / self-forcing with a tendency to block.

To avoid to block the drum the brake shoes are better based on a "sliding point" (like on our TRs) and not on pivot points (like on simple motorbikes).

And the linings better end clearly before the surface is parallel to the force direktion of the hydraulic cylinder. Because in this case they are like an endless slim and powerfull wedge.

So your shorter linings will brake less and avoid more the drum brake to block.

Ciao, Marco

 

Indeed I made some improvements on my handbrake which make me very pleased.

 

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