jogger321 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just got around to this job and got the old one off Does anybody know the correct size spanner I should be using to fit the Four seasons valve I purchased from the states as none of my spanners so far are the correct size!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I just used an adjustable, I'm not an Engineer so the spanner police don't come for me ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jogger321 Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Seems an incredibly tight fit screwing it in...Don't want to damage it or round the nut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) In this case I would use my Knipex pliers wrench, adjustable and it grips more powerfull the more powerfull you push it - if you hold it the correct way around Edited April 3, 2019 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Reminds me of my favourite spanner joke.... what’s the stupiest spanner in the toolbox? Half Whit :-) steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oddball Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 I fitted one of these last year,so much better. Cameron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Mine was a bit tight too. I cleaned the female thread in the nipple where it screws in with a round steel wire brush first, especially the lower part, where you probably have hard deposits too. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spit_2.5PI Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Jogger321, are you using Plumbers' Tape? The PTFE tape not only forms a seal on the thread, it lowers the friction as you assemble/tighten the valve. As far as I recall, I tightened mine by hand, nothing more! Cheers, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jogger321 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Thats really helpful thanks ...Unfortunately I have slightly rounded the nut on the new one already :-( I'm going to clean out the female thread and also use ptfe when I try again On reflection the old one was really difficult to turn anticlockwise right up until its last thread and removal.....Mind you probably hadn't been moved for over 40 years!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Might be a good idea to replace the steel pipe as well then! You can get them for a few quid on ebay. I didn't have any problem tightening up the valve (also used PTFE tape) when I did it. Daz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, jogger321 said: Thats really helpful thanks ...Unfortunately I have slightly rounded the nut on the new one already :-( For this case I recommend to you to buy a "Knipex water pump pliers", both (water pump pliers and pliers wrench) will make you happy for the rest of your life - and your inheritors too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jogger321 Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Z320 said: For this case I recommend to you to buy a "Knipex water pump pliers", both (water pump pliers and pliers wrench) will make you happy for the rest of your life - and your inheritors too. Yes...but my inheritors won't be pleased that I spent all that money on them :-) :-) :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Don't tell them about the money and they will laud you 20 years after you are gone for the quality tools you left them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AarhusTr6 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Hi. I fitted one but not had much luck on getting the cable to fit to the pin. An electrical spade did not work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, AarhusTr6 said: Hi. I fitted one but not had much luck on getting the cable to fit to the pin. An electrical spade did not work! That’s weird, mine took about 5 mins to connect up - there are some other very elegant solutions that people have shared, but this worked fine for me (at least so far!) ....... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AarhusTr6 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, AndyR100 said: That’s weird, mine took about 5 mins to connect up - there are some other very elegant solutions that people have shared, but this worked fine for me (at least so far!) ....... Andy Said spade fell off Andy! Saw a nice screw fixing thing once but don't have a lathe at home! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndyR100 Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Oh dear! I must admit, I wondered how long mine would last and have been pleasantly surprised so far! My luck will run out one day ...... andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ed_h Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, AarhusTr6 said: ...but don't have a lathe at home! You can do one like this with just a drill press and a small tap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AarhusTr6 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Yes - - was drooling at that bullfire solution but not sure how to make one ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 I made the same Ed has made from a round 15 mm piece of brass. No difficult equipment, just the grinder, files, drills and tap. Looks perfect. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
michaeldavis39 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 I would be interested to know what size hose everyone has fitted to this valve as the original hose is not the same diameter. Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iani Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 46 minutes ago, michaeldavis39 said: I would be interested to know what size hose everyone has fitted to this valve as the original hose is not the same diameter. Michael I was able to sweat a standard size rubber hose on, no luck with a silicone hose though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
colin3511 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 Revington TR offer the complete kit but you can just buy a rather neat very small square cable holder that looks rather good. I have used one for a few years now. They cost about £5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRD Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, michaeldavis39 said: I would be interested to know what size hose everyone has fitted to this valve as the original hose is not the same diameter. Michael The existing one fitted OK for me, a bit of grease helps. I used the Revington bit for the cable - https://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr1487/name/clamp-block-assembly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, AarhusTr6 said: Hi. I fitted one but not had much luck on getting the cable to fit to the pin. An electrical spade did not work! The fitting that Ed shows is very nice indeed. There is a simple version. The electrical connector block that has a plastic body with brass fittings. Wire in one side, another wire out the other. Ebay here Remove one of the brass connectors. Open one of the grub screw holes to fit the heater valve pin. The operating cable goes in the end and locked with the remaining grub screw. TRNiall posted this about two years ago. Roger Edited April 5, 2019 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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