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 Hi all been reading a lot about the trailing arm studs/helicoils unf vs unc  A lot of the posts were from seven or eight years ago what is the best solution  i’m thinking UNC  and using Loctite  to hold them in   am I  on the right track or should I just go with 5/16 UNF and use existing studs I’ve  even had one suggestion to leave them alone basically if it’s not broke don’t fix it is it a mod that should be done many thanks John 

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Hi John,

 indeed 'if it ain't broke don;t fix it' is true.

You could give the studs a test by applying the max torque figure PLUS 10%. If they feel OK keep them.

 

If they need changing then give a thought to the size of stud. 3/8 UNC sounds much better but consider that the original, 5/16unf,  have lasted 50 years.

The 3/8 UNC do not need helicoils - but you remain with stud in Ali configuration.  I would not use Loctite.

5/16 UNF + helicoil gives a very strong bond - the helicoil giving a serious sideways grip - thus less tendency to strip the threads etc.

IF you do replace the studs you WILL need an alignment jig to keep the holes perfectly square etc.  I can help there. 

 

roger

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Hi all I’ve  just done the  test suggested by Roger starts starting to strip so it’s gonna have to be helicoils many thanks for reply’s will let you know how I get on . John 

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+1 for the CDD shouldered studs, 3/8 unc x 5/16 unf only thing is the new threads need to be deep enough so that none of the 3/8 shoulder is proud of the hole but also not too deep otherwise the stud will turn when fitting the nyloc nut. I used a dab of studlock and left overnight before final assembly.  Roger, can you expand on your comment on locktite. 

Chris

 

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Hi Chris,

                   Triumph went for UNF on the stud in the Ali to stop the tendency of the stud vibrating free.  These have last a very long time.

Loctite should not be required simply because it never was required.

The 3/8 UNC does not give you the vibration security that the UNF does.

Why reinvent the wheel.  I feel the CDD studs are wrong.

 

Roger

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