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I only got my car in early Nov so have only drove it with the roof up. My car has a new Mohair roof, now when I go for a drive with the roof down is there going to be some flapping noise from the rear quarter lights that fold in, if so should I buy a Stowage cover £294. Does the stowage cover just fit by using the three press studs on either side. 

 

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Paul.

 

absolutely get a cover for the hood. Driving it without one will look cak and probably will cause flapping at mway speed.

it fits onto the poppers around the back and side of the hood (assuming they have been fitted) - mine has 12 although the cover fits onto 10 (the other 2 are for the full tonneaux), another 2 onto the poppers near the b post and a further 2 under the folded hood.  Doing this definitely protects the hood and makes the whole car look nice with the top down.

cheers

 

dave

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.... oh yeah, and there’s only one way to drive the car and that is with the top down.  Driving with top up is for MG drivers.  The hood should only be used when parked and you don’t have a tonneau and you don’t want the inside getting wet.

 

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33 minutes ago, Paul Hill said:

 Does the stowage cover just fit by using the three press studs on either side. 

You need the snaps down below or the cover will blow off at speed. How do I know this?

 

Check around for a used one for much cheaper price.

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i only have the three poppers either side, is it taught enough on the back when fitted to the six I have

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Hi Dave

The only way I can see it you would have to fit press studs through the main roof where it’s fixed to the rear plate, I just thought when it’s pulled around the base of the roof it will be taught enough when using the press studs either side

 

Paul

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Looks like I will need to see if I can get poppers fitted

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Unfortunately so Paul.  The three around each side fit the hood but the cover will only pick up on the rear two (so 4 in total).  Without the rear fixings the cover will flap as the air comes in from the rear of the car as you drive. 

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Anyone know of an easier way of doing this or is it roof off and get studs fitted, cannot understand why they are not there, surely it would be standard fitting for roof or full Tonnuea covers.

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As I recall, you'll need extra long rivets (can't remember how long exactly) they pierce through the fabric and  part #4 here  https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/weather-equipment/hoods-hood-frames-fittings/hood-frame-fittings-tr5-6.html, you should order parts 8, 9, 10, &11,   and so should I, one of mine has come adrift.

Regards,

Richard.

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4 minutes ago, Richard71 said:

As I recall, you'll need extra long rivets (can't remember how long exactly) they pierce through the fabric and  part #4 here  https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/weather-equipment/hoods-hood-frames-fittings/hood-frame-fittings-tr5-6.html, you should order parts 8, 9, 10, &11,   and so should I, one of mine has come adrift.

Regards,

Richard.

Many thanks Richard

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I'm glad this subject came up. Attached is a pic of my stowage cover, there are 2 fabric hoops at each end of the section that tuck up under the inside, I can't figure out what they're for or where they attach to? Are they for neatly tidying away the cover while not in use? I'm now thinking they should be replaced with poppers which Dave (Aardvark) describes as under the folded roof.

Richard.

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The seven holes for the rivets & snaps/poppers will already be there, very likely, hidden under the soft top.

How to locate them is the problem. 

You will probably be able to feel the holes from the cockpit side, under the soft top.

When you find them, you could push a sharp object through the roof vinyl to mark where the rivets will need to go.

Cheers

Walt

 

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24 minutes ago, Richard71 said:

 there are 2 fabric hoops at each end of the section that tuck up under the inside, I can't figure out what they're for or where they attach to? Richard.

Richard, there should be poppers riveted to the side vinyl in the inside rear of the car. To locate where they should be, fit the cover  and pull the hoops to the inside- where the hoops touch the vinyl is where the poppers should be attached.

The purpose of them is to hold down the cover so it does not fly away at 50+ miles per hour.

Walt

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38 minutes ago, Sapphire72 said:

Richard, there should be poppers riveted to the side vinyl in the inside rear of the car. To locate where they should be, fit the cover  and pull the hoops to the inside- where the hoops touch the vinyl is where the poppers should be attached.

The purpose of them is to hold down the cover so it does not fly away at 50+ miles per hour.

Walt

Errrrm, have to admit to still having no interior trim fitted.

I forgot to attach the pic in my earlier post, am I right though, should these hoops be replaced with tags of fabric & poppers?

Hood Stowage.jpg

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I am going to pop and see David Hayden in Walsall only 6 miles from me, he is a hood and auto upholstery specialist, he did my piped leather Midget seats 18 years ago and a brilliant job he did to, as the roof is brand new and Mohair I do not want to fook it up

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It's rare for me to drive around with the hood up and I usually have the hood cover fitted as well.

Now, whenever I've driven with the roof down and not used the cover, I have never had a problem with the roof flapping around - in any way - at any speed at which I've managed to drive the car.  I've had it up to 110mph (indicated) on a circuit and the hood has stayed exactly where I left it.  The trick (in my opinion) is to fold it it the optimum fashion - as I was instructed by Clive Manvers - God rest his soul.

Anyway, here is my simple description, prefaced by an apology if you are already doing this:

Fold the hood back flat, taking care that the handles are folded in and the material is fully extended back over the boot lid (I don't use the internal fittings to hold the material snugly to the frame).

Fold the two corners into the middle so that the points meet - ensure flat.

Fold the back edge of the material over the top and push down into the space behind the seats.  It should now have a low profile - sufficient to easily fit the stowage cover over the top (assuming the poppers are there, of course).  This also seems be a good way of folding the hood while not causing unnecessary stress to the windows.

Again, apologies if this is what you are doing already.

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Watched a quick video of how to fold it properly and it sits well so as you say there should be no flapping about. I will look into getting the studs fitted on the back for the cover, there is no rush, and I do think it’s better with to roof left up during winter storage.

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5 hours ago, Richard71 said:

Errrrm, have to admit to still having no interior trim fitted.

I forgot to attach the pic in my earlier post, am I right though, should these hoops be replaced with tags of fabric & poppers?

Hood Stowage.jpg

Hi Richard, yes, those are the tabs  under consideration.

There is no special way to hold them in place- hooks would work as well as poppers, or adhesive Velcro, bungee stretch cords or rope.

When I left mine hanging unhooked, the cover started to unravel from the car- almost lost it on the motorway, but reached back and grabbed it..

Walt

 

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 Paul, my car had no rear snaps, looked like they had pulled through as the holes were there, so in order to replace I had to undo the rear plate which is bolted down with I think five bolts just below the rear window, once this is off its easy to get to. 

You need small washers to stop the rivet pulling through and I had to fit longer ones at the rear sides as there is quite a bit of material in that area. It's quite easy and satisfying to sort. 

Good luck with it. 

Gareth

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