Tim D. Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hi all, Posting here as I think this component is common to more than the TR6. The top of the outer steering column. The bit that the indicators attach to. Seems to have come adrift. When I depress the turn signal stalk the upper part of the column rotates someway with it. The lower part of the outer steering column stays put. Anyone know how best to solve this? How is the upper fixed to the lower. Looks like they are separate but joined in some way. Cheers Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hi Tim, are you referring to the cowl - item #24 https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/steering-suspension/steering/steering-wheels-columns-fittings-tr5-6.html Not sure how they are fixed together I would have thought some sort of interference fit. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yes. 24. Suspect it is interference. But suspect mine has lost its interference. Was wondering about riveting? Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 I cut one in pieces today with my hacksaw , seems to be welded, the tube in the "switch terminal" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 It is made from aluminium right? Don't think I am going to be able to weld it if it is. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) It is aluminium, it is spot welded, you could solder it, I woud glue it with Loctite. Welding that it could melt away Edited October 18, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Tim D. Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Perfect pictures. I think I may blind rivet it. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ed_h Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 I believe it was spot welded. You can see where I filed one of the weld divots with Bondo. I think rivets should work fine if they don't interfere with anything inside. Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yet another helpful thread. I have the same issue with slight movement of the cowl on my 4A. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi Tim, is it only the cowl that is loose?. The whole outer cover can come loose in its mountings. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Tim, is it only the cowl that is loose?. The whole outer cover can come loose in its mountings. Roger If the tube is broken where the drill for the lock is and #51 is missing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
openroad Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hello Tim, I have a spare if needed. Cheers, Conrad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 It's just the upper part that is loose.. the rest is well clamped. Cheers Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Thanks Roger, it's the same for me as the other Tim. It is just the upper part of the cowl assembly that is loose, both the forward and rearward clamps are tight on the lower cylindrical part. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 7:39 PM, Tim D. said: Yes. 24. Suspect it is interference. But suspect mine has lost its interference. Was wondering about riveting? Tim Hi Tim, how about using something like Alu-weld. This is a welding technique that is very similar to soldering. In theory it is easy to do. In practice you need practice. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 13 hours ago, RogerH said: Hi Tim, how about using something like Alu-weld. This is a welding technique that is very similar to soldering. In theory it is easy to do. In practice you need practice. Roger Its too thin for that Roger, riveting is possibly the best or find another one, FWIW the saloon one though longer can be cut down to suit. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Glue it with Loctite 638 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Or Araldite perhaps - better gap filling capability> Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 23 hours ago, stuart said: Its too thin for that Roger, riveting is possibly the best or find another one, FWIW the saloon one though longer can be cut down to suit. Stuart. Hi Stuart, I was thinking of Alutight This process looks interesting if you haven't got Ali Mig or Tig. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 I have a version of that for fusion welding, its better for repairing castings than for thin stuff like the column tubes. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 I also have something like that, called "TAV3". You have to use a iron needel to open the surface. I expect it does not work like tin, flux and copper tubes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeF Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 I had this problem on my 4, the cowl could rotate and even had small slack in and out no matter how I tightened everything up. In the end I RTFM and saw the under bonnet clamp was supposed to be packed with a piece of leather! Which it wasn't. Inserting a piece of butyl rubber - an ex piece of pond liner that happened to be handy - solved problem in a few minutes. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 Thanks Mike. Looked at it over the weekend and the cowl has definitely separated from the tube. Ideally want to sort it in situ so welding is out. But looks like a river or screw or two will hold it. Cheer Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 Hi chaps, Sorted it in the end. Rivet through the top and a screw through the bottom attaching the cowl to the cable cover. Rock solid now. Cheers Tim Ps not sure why the formatting has gone mad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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