earckens Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 What is the correct procedure to replace this flexible coupling? I have tried to remove the bolts while the coupling sits in place but these bolts seem unmovable, even after some WD40 spraying. I know I have to undo the locking wiring but I wanted to try and move these bolts just to see if some movement would be possible without undoing these wires but not even one degree of turning seems possible. Thanks for your assistance! Erik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 After some makeshift blocking of the steering axis turning I do get movement, but the torque with which these bolts had been set seems incredibly high! Any idea how much torque is needed to fasten these bolts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Hi Erik, 12 - 14lb/ft https://app.box.com/s/8e30b8221f367ea078e2 Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Hi Erik, 12 - 14lb/ft https://app.box.com/s/8e30b8221f367ea078e2 Roger That must be about 20Nm, I can tell you this one must have used a ton to tighten them! One of the bolts was so tight it lost the sides in my wrench and I had to use a visegrip on the bolt and a very big wrench key to block the axis. I almost thought I had to use an anglegrinder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Have you given it a good soak with penetrating oil? Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yes indeed, thks for the suggestion! When getting in the new flexible joint I had luckily ordered new bolts and retainer wire. Getting the first 3 bolts in place went fairly reasonable, but the 4th bolt made me sweat like a horse for about one hour! I finally managed with a wrench 13mm headkey simultaneously torqueing in line the bolt with the receiving end, pushing and trying to keep the bolt in place and at the same time slowly trying to get the thread to lock in place. I wonder how mechanics did that in the "old" times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Hi Erik, the method I employ is get the start thread of the bolt in the hole, lever the bolt in loine with the hle and start to screw in. The 4th bolt is the hardest but works the same way. Apprx 10 minutes for the 4. Others use a Jubilee clip to compress the rubber. I have not tried that one. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction, that's makes it very easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction, that's makes it very easy. Edited August 5, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction, that's makes it very easy. P1240692-b.JPG Great picture! Water pump wrench next on shopping list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Hi Erik, the method I employ is get the start thread of the bolt in the hole, lever the bolt in loine with the hle and start to screw in.(...) Well that is what took one hour sweating to learn and execute; next time (if ever?) will be faster but I doubt I manage in 10' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 You will be faster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 At Malvern a few years ago, I watched Carl Kidell and Neil Revington fit a new rubber to steering. A big jubilee clip went round the rubber, was tightened, and the bolts went into position very easily. Yet another of the clever tricks employed by the experts. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Hi Erik, I strongly want to recomrnd the trademark KNIPEX with their adjusting mechanism. # 87 01 250 as a standard AND # 86 03 250 for nuts and think to get no marks on their surface, also good for bending an re-bend tin metal, wires and to press thinks flat. Smaller and larger sizes are also availbble DO NOT BOTHER THE PRICE, they will serve you, your children and grand children for your/ their live time. Ciao Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) Sorry, double again, something goes wrong with my IPhone Edited August 5, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Jubilee clip works a treat. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockie51 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Replace them with metal ones from the TR6 top and bottom. Big improvement in steering feel and much easier to install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) Down on the steering rack I use the TR6 item with u-joint, on the upper rubber one is my hope that it will brake in the case of an accident. Edited August 6, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
earckens Posted August 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Replace them with metal ones from the TR6 top and bottom. Big improvement in steering feel and much easier to install. TR6 upper is flexible joint too? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/steering-suspension/steering/steering-racks-mountings-inner-columns-tr5-6.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Used a water pump again today after disassemble and meassure the end of the steering column. The time needed to set the upper bolt is only a blink of an eye Edited August 20, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I think the rubber coupling is same as Morris Marina https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-MARINA-ITAL-FLEXIBLE-RUBBER-STEERING-COUPLING/253820861088?hash=item3b18e6faa0:g:WXoAAOSwPCVX-Wm3 The Universal Joint as used on TR6 is same as Ford Escort (short) More expensive than buying from Moss! https://www.motorsport-tools.com/ford-escort-parts-mk1-mk2/steering.html Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
qkingston Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 At Malvern a few years ago, I watched Carl Kidell and Neil Revington fit a new rubber to steering. A big jubilee clip went round the rubber, was tightened, and the bolts went into position very easily. Yet another of the clever tricks employed by the experts. Ian Cornish Same technique used for doing the Rotoflex couplings on a GT6 drive shaft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Or on the Hillman Imp! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockie51 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 If you need more bling! https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/chrome-steel-cylindrical-universal-joint Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badhuis Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 I strongly want to recomrnd the trademark KNIPEX with their adjusting mechanism. Thirty years ago I was given a new Knipex combination pliers. It has been used a LOT over the years yet it still is as new. The cutting edges are still amazingly sharp. Recommended indeed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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