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What is the correct procedure to replace this flexible coupling?

 

I have tried to remove the bolts while the coupling sits in place but these bolts seem unmovable, even after some WD40 spraying.

 

I know I have to undo the locking wiring but I wanted to try and move these bolts just to see if some movement would be possible without undoing these wires but not even one degree of turning seems possible.

 

Thanks for your assistance!

Erik

 

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After some makeshift blocking of the steering axis turning I do get movement, but the torque with which these bolts had been set seems incredibly high!

 

Any idea how much torque is needed to fasten these bolts?

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Hi Erik,

12 - 14lb/ft https://app.box.com/s/8e30b8221f367ea078e2

 

Roger

That must be about 20Nm, I can tell you this one must have used a ton to tighten them! One of the bolts was so tight it lost the sides in my wrench and I had to use a visegrip on the bolt and a very big wrench key to block the axis. I almost thought I had to use an anglegrinder.

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Yes indeed, thks for the suggestion!

 

When getting in the new flexible joint I had luckily ordered new bolts and retainer wire. Getting the first 3 bolts in place went fairly reasonable, but the 4th bolt made me sweat like a horse for about one hour! I finally managed with a wrench 13mm headkey simultaneously torqueing in line the bolt with the receiving end, pushing and trying to keep the bolt in place and at the same time slowly trying to get the thread to lock in place.

I wonder how mechanics did that in the "old" times.

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Hi Erik,

the method I employ is get the start thread of the bolt in the hole, lever the bolt in loine with the hle and start to screw in.

The 4th bolt is the hardest but works the same way.

Apprx 10 minutes for the 4.

 

Others use a Jubilee clip to compress the rubber. I have not tried that one.

 

Roger

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I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction,

that's makes it very easy.

 

 

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I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction,

that's makes it very easy.

 

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I always take a water pump wrench and force it in the correct direction,

that's makes it very easy.

 

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Great picture! Water pump wrench next on shopping list.

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Hi Erik,

the method I employ is get the start thread of the bolt in the hole, lever the bolt in loine with the hle and start to screw in.

(...)

Well that is what took one hour sweating to learn and execute; next time (if ever?) will be faster but I doubt I manage in 10' B)

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At Malvern a few years ago, I watched Carl Kidell and Neil Revington fit a new rubber to steering. A big jubilee clip went round the rubber, was tightened, and the bolts went into position very easily.

Yet another of the clever tricks employed by the experts.

Ian Cornish

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Hi Erik,

I strongly want to recomrnd the trademark KNIPEX with their adjusting mechanism.

# 87 01 250 as a standard AND

# 86 03 250 for nuts and think to get no marks on their surface,

also good for bending an re-bend tin metal, wires and to press thinks flat.

Smaller and larger sizes are also availbble

 

DO NOT BOTHER THE PRICE, they will serve you, your children and grand children for your/ their live time.

 

Ciao Marco

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Sorry, double again, something goes wrong with my IPhone

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Replace them with metal ones from the TR6 top and bottom. Big improvement in steering feel and much easier to install.

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Down on the steering rack I use the TR6 item with u-joint,

on the upper rubber one is my hope that it will brake in the case of an accident.

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Replace them with metal ones from the TR6 top and bottom. Big improvement in steering feel and much easier to install.

TR6 upper is flexible joint too? https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/steering-suspension/steering/steering-racks-mountings-inner-columns-tr5-6.html

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Used a water pump again today after disassemble and meassure the end of the steering column.

The time needed to set the upper bolt is only a blink of an eye

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I think the rubber coupling is same as Morris Marina

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-MARINA-ITAL-FLEXIBLE-RUBBER-STEERING-COUPLING/253820861088?hash=item3b18e6faa0:g:WXoAAOSwPCVX-Wm3

The Universal Joint as used on TR6 is same as Ford Escort (short) More expensive than buying from Moss!

https://www.motorsport-tools.com/ford-escort-parts-mk1-mk2/steering.html

 

Peter W

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At Malvern a few years ago, I watched Carl Kidell and Neil Revington fit a new rubber to steering. A big jubilee clip went round the rubber, was tightened, and the bolts went into position very easily.

Yet another of the clever tricks employed by the experts.

Ian Cornish

Same technique used for doing the Rotoflex couplings on a GT6 drive shaft :)

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I strongly want to recomrnd the trademark KNIPEX with their adjusting mechanism.

Thirty years ago I was given a new Knipex combination pliers. It has been used a LOT over the years yet it still is as new. The cutting edges are still amazingly sharp.

Recommended indeed

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