JJohn Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 I am considering power steering for my competition TR6. Anyone out there done this and, if so, how is it and which kit did you use? Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 I fitted Alisdair Southall,s kit in 2009 and it is a joy to drive my TR5.Many members who have driven my TR5 have said the same. You get a falling rate the faster you go.So when parking up or turning the power steering comes onto its own. No bump steer and no shaking steering wheel when going over dips in the road. One of the best mods I have done amongst the many on my TR5. Regards Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 As above, Alisdair's Classic Car Developments on my car and it is great. No problems and a good feel to the steering. I would recommend to anyone. I would say you could try mine but you are some distance away! Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Classic Car Developments might well be at the International in Lincoln, and I'm sure Harry and his TR5 will be. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJohn Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Thanks very much Harry, Alan and Ian. I will follow up your recommendations. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim hunt Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Yes Ian, Alasdair of CCD will be at the Lincoln weekend. I have arranged to see him there on the Sunday. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynchpin Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Hi All Have a look at easysteer/easisteer not sure of the spelling fitted to my mk1 golf a couple of years ago it has an adjustable control to be able to turn it down for track use etc.. Cheers Phil.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badhuis Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 There are at least four ways of doing this. 1. the EPAS DIY way If you are mechanically handy, you might consider to fit an electric power steering unit as fitted to the Vauxhall Corsa or Renault Clio. Apart from the EPAS unit you would need to have a small converted which can be bought on Ebay. Then, the fairly difficult task to mount the EPAs onto the steering column. To do this correctly you would need access to a lathe in order to make the connections to the steering column. A sturdy bracket is needed to secure the EPAS unit to the bulkhead. 2. EPAS partly done by a company Use a specialist company like www.ooo.eu. They will happily take in your original steering column, mount an EPAS to it and sort the electrics, and send it back. For you then to install the unit (which still would need a sturdy bracket made in order to attach the EPAS unit to the bulkhead). 3. EPAS to be installed at a company Send the car to a company and have EPAS installed. There are some companies doing this. 4. install hydraulic power steering This I have no experience with. From a 2000/2500 saloon maybe? Not sure it would fit. EPAS is not as exotic as it might seem, I have built in quite a lot of these systems for customers in various cars, but only in one TR6. That was back 7 years ago, for a customer who after an accident had not much power left in his arms. Owning a TR4 myself, I never found any reason to add PAS as the steering already is very light. Using 165/15 tyres and the original (big diameter) steering wheel probably helps a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Nr. 1 is a nice idea because I also see not much need for a power steering (use 185/15) so it should cost as less as possible, best: nothing. So thanks for the advice to Renault and Vauxhall, my idea was Fiat (ask me why), I looked for that some time ago but nothing seemed to fit. Most doubt I had about the need for any connection to the central control box of the former car to get the tranformed power steering working in my TR4A. So please, perhaps you can say something to that thought. Ciao Marco Edited July 1, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Had a closer look todays evening: does not work with a steering lock as fitted on my TR4A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJohn Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Thanks very much chaps. We have decided to take the Corsa route. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Please report! (Corsa D and Fiat Punto looks the same and very short?) Edited July 4, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) plan is to have a lucky hour on the car scrap yard todays afternoon Edited July 6, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badhuis Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 does not work with a steering lock as fitted on my TR4A Why not? The EPAS unit would be fitted to the inside of the firewall/scuttle/bulkhead. There should just be enough room for the steering lock to be remained. I am saying this on top of my head so am not 100% sure. The choice for a Corsa or Clio unit is because there are electronic converters for the ECU on the market for these units. There might be for other makes but I do not know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hello Jim and Z320 ,I run a Grande Punto as my daily drive and the power steering looks quite a neat little set up.I do believe that several other components on the Punto are the same as the Corsa, so maybe the power steering is as well.A word of warning! There is a “Torque sensor” thingy on the Punto setup and apparently it is prone to early failure. I had it happen on my Punto and had to have a new “Torque sensor” thingy replaced at the cost of £300. (I normally do things myself, but I had visions of the air bag in the middle of the steering wheel going off and causing even more expense.) Charlie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Hi Jim, are you any further with your ideas? Ciao Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJohn Posted August 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hi Marco, I have bought a Corsa EPAS set. However, the car is in the very early stages of a rebuild following a double roll at a sprint meeting at Blyton Park. Replacement body shell just been delivered so it will be sometime before it is installed and I am able to drive it. Sorry I cannot be helpful at the moment. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hi Jim, after a double roll... hope you still wear your head on your sholders. I did not make any decision until now, but it seem to me the Clio II EPAS has the smallest dimensions. Do you have a steering lock in yout steering column on your TR6? Ciao Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJohn Posted August 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 No steering lock on this car Marco. Cheers Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 I ordered a Clio II EPAS with control box at eBay for a very smart price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) Hi, got the Renault Clio II EPS yesterday, it's some larger and with more weight than I expacted. Stripped from the brackets I will not need it looks a little more cozy The outgoing end is realy very short and it will be no problem to fix the steering column and a outer bush / shell 32 mm diameter. The ingoing end with the sensor box was easy to remove with gentle pressure, it will be possible to turn it 180° clock- / anticlockwise, guess this is needed tue to my steering lock and LHD. You see (1) a big bearing, (2) a surface on the shaft for a needle bearing remainig in the bush / sensor housing, (3) the gaps to trigger the sensor, (4) the bolt that connects the steering shaft to the torsion element, (5) the gaps for the lock. A look in the ingoing bush shows the sensors and a needle bearing which I want to keep. Next is to get the ingoing shaft and the ingoing bush in pieces. Ciao Marco Edited August 5, 2018 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Interesting project, Marco Keep us informed as you go along H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Hi Hamish, as long as there is interest on this experiment and questions I will report. Ciao Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 We want more! Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Hi Hamish, as long as there is interest on this experiment and questions I will report. Ciao Marco +1 ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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