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#1 bnseven

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:59 AM

First post on here so apologies if I should have done my introductions first and also if I have jumped onto the wrong part of the forum with this;

 

Did a bit of historic rallying as a driver about 20 years ago, used a frogeye, MGA, Midget & an A40 but haven't done an event since 2002 until a pal rang me and asked me to do the HERO winter challenge as navigator. Had so much fun have decided that I have a need for a historic road rally car/odd track day car and whilst I did think AH3000, having had one of those for 15 years am now convinced it will be a TR4...

 

Obviously the best buy is one that has been set up for rallies before as the last chap has done the shakedown/expense. There is one that is for sale and has been for a bit which looks interesting, it has fibreglass wings though and I am pretty sure that in some regs these are not permitted. Is this an absolute or does it depend on how strict the scrutineers are? I have known plenty of frogeyes rallying with plastic fronts without an issue and the car I have in mind has apparently done 4 le Jogs... What do the experts think??

 

Does anyone on here know the car I am referring to or is aware of any others that may be about to come to market??

 

my real name is Kevin Needham and I live near Newmarket in Suffolk.

 

Thanks in advance for your collective wisdom


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#2 Tom Boyd

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 12:53 PM

Kevin,

Feel free to call me for advice. My number is 01623 793807.

I am currently out the office though, at Mallory shaking down a TR4a and a dolomite sprint.

You could pm me your number and I will call when convenient to you

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:52 PM

Kevin
If its this one ?
https://m.carandclas....uk/car/C893467

I like the look of it and would have been a very serious consideration if I hadnt bought my 3a

its been up for sale for a while now. Perhaps the purists are put off by the fibreglass? you could get a bargain.

You would be very welcome in the clubs sprint and hill climb champs with it as we have a class that caters for this cars mods.

http://www.tr-regist...o.uk/motorsport

Best of luck whatever you decide.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:59 PM

Or you could try a TR4 on the HERO arrive and drive scheme:-

 

https://heroevents.e...iumph-tr4-1964/(I believe Tom Boyd knows a great deal about the car and its preparation)

 

Good luck

 

You could do worse than contact TR4tony on this forum - he and his partner are regular HERO event participants.

 

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#5 bnseven

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:17 PM

Well spotted Hamish. Thats the one i have been looking at but am sure there are others. Can quite easily convert a standard car but rather not mess a good one about if a ready prepped car out there.

Doing an odd sprint also crossed my mind, especially as my pal who drove on the winter challenge hill climbs and sprints a midget...

Pms and phone calls to follow. Thanks for replies so far
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:46 PM

If you bought that then a set of the Bastuck steel wings for it wouldnt actually make it too expensive.(+about £2k +paint)

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:00 AM

I had considered the steel wings option and suspect that that route might be more cost effective than prepping a standard steel car....

 

but just wondering if the fibreglass wings a major issue in respect of scrutineering, as I said used to be frogeyes out on rallies with plastic fronts and was never a problem although mine was an all steel car....


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:06 AM

I think it depends on what series you wish to compete in, get the regs for the series and read all of it including the small print and then build your car to suit. Its often the case with what looks like a nice rally rep that when you look closely you will find that its no good to actually use as it doesnt comply with any series regs.

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 04:14 PM

there's the rub though, Ideally I was going to pick and choose a few, guess depends on what permit they run under.A few HERO type events will be on the radar and the car has apparently done those before so it would seem there are no problems scrutineering there issues might be with smaller club events


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Posted 29 April 2018 - 11:19 AM

If they have to be metal.... could you get away with alloy ones?
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Posted 30 April 2018 - 01:58 AM

If they have to be metal.... could you get away with alloy ones?

 

Yes - TR4 used these in period. 

 

HOWEVER, it is always essential to check the regulations for the series you are planning to run, just in case.  (For example, additional lights that were used in period are no longer legal - only a small point, but it shows that sometimes things aren't as clear as they might be (or should be...???)).

 

BTW, I'm aware that I'm commenting on UK regulations from Canada so, although I used to rally in the UK and try to keep up with the latest rules (at least in general), that's an additional reason to check the regs of your series.  Technical co-ordinators and/or scrutineers (as well as others rallying TR4s) are usually very helpful - no-one is trying to stop you joining in the fun...


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Posted 01 May 2018 - 08:49 AM

Thanks for the advice and thoughts, as I am struggling to make contact with the vendor of the car in question the issue of non metal wings is rather becoming a non issue, think I will have to sit on my hands for a bit or just go and buy a steel road car and do the rally bits to it which I was initially loathe to do but don't mind getting my hands dirty...


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