Geko Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) one learn something new everyday.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Tr4-Works-Wing-Vent-Panel-Herald-Grill-Panels/112781676882?hash=item1a424fd152:g:xRMAAOSw4QdabiMe Edited January 29, 2018 by Geko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Yeah true enough...classy aren't they ? Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 But the Herald grille is only part of the story, one needs a pair of the correct (i.e. original) vent surrounds to fit into the wings if trying to make the car look like a replica or tribute TR4 Works' Rally car. As far as I am aware the correct vent surrounds are available only from one source, down on the Somerset Levels. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Cheftush had help from Elin to make his wing vent surrounds. in Canada ???????? Formed around a wood block. https://youtu.be/npcoEt29rQA From around 11:54. He did it quick too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4Mal Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 That man deserves a beer...Oh wait, he has one about 14.19 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 When one sees the amount of work these fellows put into manufacturing the duct, I'm surprised that they didn't purchase a pair from Revington at some £440 inclusive of VAT and that includes the two pieces of grille. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Boyd Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 When one sees the amount of work these fellows put into manufacturing the duct, I'm surprised that they didn't purchase a pair from Revington at some £440 inclusive of VAT and that includes the two pieces of grille. Ian Cornish Ian, Most likely because there time is free, they have all the equipment and the material cost around £10 But agreed, if an item is on the shelf and it works!! Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 When one sees the amount of work these fellows put into manufacturing the duct, I'm surprised that they didn't purchase a pair from Revington at some £440 inclusive of VAT and that includes the two pieces of grille. Ian Cornish Hi Ian, I thought about it but when you convert Sterling to Canadian that works out to about $765 Canadian. Add in shipping and they would be well over $800 Canadian. I already have the herald grill....and yes, I know they could be purchased without the grill :-) Anyway, we are working our way through it any having fun. I think so far they have cost about $20 to make and a few beers consumed :-) Hopefully, they will turn out ok in the end....if they don't, that's what W elders are for! Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 And....an update on the ducts... Again, we are learning as we go...we made some smaller ducts and moved them down in order to clear the body line in the fender. I think we will be ok now. We will fit all the panels up including the bonnet and doors before we cut the holes in the fender. So, this will be a little ways down the line..... https://youtu.be/dXvOJu6zbb8 Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 If you want to make the vents like the factory did it, get a copy of the book "The Works Triumphs" by Graham Robson and look on page 116. There is a nice picture of the vent tunnel angling down to clear the fender ridge. The grill also mounts in the tunnel and not in the fender. The fender mounts flush up to the grill. Dean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Hi Dean, Thank You. Yes,the plan is to mount the grill piece in the tube. The fender will be flanged inwards inside the tube. Cheers, Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 As it may assist you, I have attached a (low definition) shot of the vent on my car. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Thanks Ian, I appreciate it. Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4A1965 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I always liked the 'Zoom Prototype' vents. I have never seen these attempted on a TR4 / 4A by anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agrace Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi David (Tush) old friend. Andrew Grace Here. Good to see you on this forum so far from home Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi David (Tush) old friend. Andrew Grace Here. Good to see you on this forum so far from home You can't get rid of me Mr. Grace :-) hope you and the Mrs. are well! Thanks for the Xmas card...just got it this week :-) Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I always liked the 'Zoom Prototype' vents. I have never seen these attempted on a TR4 / 4A by anyone? Zoom TR4:4A Prototype.png Those may have been much easier to re create actually. :-) I'll do it on the next one! Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Those may have been much easier to re create actually. :-) I'll do it on the next one! Cheers Tush Tush Do one of each on each side and see if Elin notices ??? Hamish Racing (youtube) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Tush Do one of each on each side and see if Elin notices ??? Hamish Racing (youtube) It would be like that picture in the Pigott book of the TR with wires on one side and rostyles on the other side... Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi-jim Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Ian Do you have a close up or can you explain how the grill is attached and held in place , I have the Herald grill and are about to start shaping the grill but was wondering how it is held in place. Cheers jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 WING VENTS IN WORKS’ TR4 RALLY CARS The aperture in the outer wing panel is folded inwards a short distance. A matching aperture is cut into the inner wing panel. The section of Herald grille has 6 horizontal bars, and the 2nd and the 5th have their ends turned inwards so that self-tapping screws from the outside of the “box” can secure the ends of these bars. This means that, from outside the car, the grille appears unsupported. The “box” is fed into the aperture in the inner wing and fits around the outside of the return on the outer wing. The “box” is secured to the inner wing by 4 (or 6) screws entering sideways from inside the engine compartment – two on the verticals and, in the case of the left-hand “box”, a further two at the top (see photos from inside left- and right-hand wing, respectively). I suspect that the extra pair of screws on the left where added in the repairs after I had managed to bend that wing in July 2000 on my way to Malvern for an IWE (silly me)! I apologise for the quality of the photos - I am no photographer (that's obvious!). Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. Pied Lourd Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks Again Ian, One follow up question. On the Outer Fender flange that goes into the tube, did you fasten this with screws or pop rivets to the tube? Jim, I would love to see some photos of your project as well. Cheers Tush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) I didn't undertake this work, it was done by Revington TR when the car was re-built, using the original parts. There is no fixing of the "box" to the outer wing - I surmise that it's just a very good fit. Actually, it would spoil the look of the thing if there were screws visible on the outer wing (fender) outside the grille. And that's what's clever about the 4 fixings for the grille, they are completely invisible from outside the car and one has to look hard to see them from inside the engine compartment as they are very small. Ian Cornish Edited February 6, 2018 by ianc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Another one of those cases where there is considerable work to make something look neat and simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Robson Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 .... but don't forget that when the vents were first devised in 1962, we had the services of truly excellent body-build/fitters, who were used to doing miraculolus things on prototypes. These vents, by those standards,were not at all difficult. Hon. Pres. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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