Tonyloz Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hi Just a long shot but has anyone got a heater matrix they dont require Just gone to fit mine and it looks like its had frost damage Thanks Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjdearing Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Hi Tony I struggled for a matrix and did not want to give Moss over £400 for one, I did consider one of the modern tubular ones, but in the end a guy in the landrover club supplied a used one for me for my TR2 i.e. converted with straight pipes exiting as per original matrix.cost was £90 all in, let me know if your interested and I will try and sort something out for you. Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Best upgrade for a heater that really works is this one http://www.t7design.co.uk/products/heating/heaters/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v.html Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonyloz Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 That looks to be a good option Stuart but how does it fit into the air intake/vent flap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 How does the standard Smiths heater fit into that flap? Simply by being in the same general area, as far as i can tell -- the T7Designs would do the same. (I have one here on my shelves -- a nicely-made, seriously-compact item -- that's a potential wintertime project to install.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 That looks to be a good option Stuart but how does it fit into the air intake/vent flap? It doesnt really as neither does the original. It sits directly under the vent so the air flows through the rad and out through the vents, you do have a little fabrication of brackets required but nothing difficult (B&Q do some handy bar perfect to make brackets from) Fit as below, other bonus apart from a very good heater is you then have more room behind your centre instrument panel for the wiring and to allow the choke cable to sit properly Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 +1 Its a great piece of kit, it works with the Rheostat switch, its compact , it creates more room behind the dash and it generates serious heat/demist capability. Great recommendation from Stuart. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just had a good browse though their website. Looks like a nicely produced and powerful unit (built here in the UK too). Thinking of placing an order, but I see they offer various different sized outlets for the demist vent tubes. I'm away from the car at the moment, and can't remember if I'd need a 1.25" or 1.5" diameter outlet. Anyone happen to know the correct size for a 3A? Cheers, Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tonyloz Posted October 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thanks for the great photos stuart Looks like a plan! Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just had a good browse though their website. Looks like a nicely produced and powerful unit (built here in the UK too). Thinking of placing an order, but I see they offer various different sized outlets for the demist vent tubes. I'm away from the car at the moment, and can't remember if I'd need a 1.25" or 1.5" diameter outlet. Anyone happen to know the correct size for a 3A? Cheers, Deggers 1.25" is correct for original cardboard hoses and FWIW the same size as vacuum cleaner hose too which is a favourite replacement when your originals have disappeared or disintegrated. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 1.25" is correct for original cardboard hoses and FWIW the same size as vacuum cleaner hose too which is a favourite replacement when your originals have disappeared or disintegrated. Stuart. ...and Adam of T7Design does some nifty 3D-printed outlets for demister hose sizes like those on our TRs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 1.25" is correct for original cardboard hoses ... Many thanks Stuart! I'll go ahead and place an order with them on the morrow. Cheers, and all the best, Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted October 21, 2020 Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Decent heater video: Edited October 21, 2020 by David Owen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 On 10/9/2017 at 4:55 AM, stuart said: Best upgrade for a heater that really works is this one http://www.t7design.co.uk/products/heating/heaters/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v.html Stuart. Hi Stuart, the link is defunct. I had a look at the T7 site and believe this is the same heater. https://www.t7design.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/288/s/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 If anyone knows where I can get a demister duct I'd be grateful for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 10 hours ago, David Owen said: Hi Stuart, the link is defunct. I had a look at the T7 site and believe this is the same heater. https://www.t7design.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/288/s/3-5kw-lightweight-heater-with-side-vents-12v/ Yes thats the one I use. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 6 hours ago, stuart said: Yes thats the one I use. Stuart. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 5:32 AM, stuart said: Yes thats the one I use. Stuart. Hi Stuart, I have decided to refurbish the original heater and put it on the shelf. I am ordering the T7 heater. Did you happen to document the brackets you made? I do not have the equipment to do this myself and I will need to give it to a fabrication shop. Cheers, David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 This newsletter has a section describing how I fitted my T7 heater including a photo of the very simple bracket. https://www.tr-register.co.uk/group/devon/social-report/2020/04/1694/In-the-Garage-April-20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Drewmotty said: This newsletter has a section describing how I fitted my T7 heater including a photo of the very simple bracket. https://www.tr-register.co.uk/group/devon/social-report/2020/04/1694/In-the-Garage-April-20 Thanks Drew. That is very helpful. All of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, David Owen said: Hi Stuart, I have decided to refurbish the original heater and put it on the shelf. I am ordering the T7 heater. Did you happen to document the brackets you made? I do not have the equipment to do this myself and I will need to give it to a fabrication shop. Cheers, David I prefer to fit mine this way as its easier for pipes and gives good airflow into the heater rad. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 I’ve fitted mine vertically with the matrix facing the bulkhead.The vents are below the dash supports for easy access when seated, the connections are at the top to ensure that there are no air locks in the matrix, it allows a bit more room for the electrics behind the instrument panel and means that the bracket can be a simple length of angle iron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 I've tried both, originally in Stuarts orientation, now just refitted like Andrews because access to the vents is so much easier (and the space behind the dash is a revelation!) , .....I will report on the results when back on the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Owen Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Drewmotty said: I’ve fitted mine vertically with the matrix facing the bulkhead.The vents are below the dash supports for easy access when seated, the connections are at the top to ensure that there are no air locks in the matrix, it allows a bit more room for the electrics behind the instrument panel and means that the bracket can be a simple length of angle iron. 1 hour ago, iain said: I've tried both, originally in Stuarts orientation, now just refitted like Andrews because access to the vents is so much easier (and the space behind the dash is a revelation!) , .....I will report on the results when back on the road. Concerns, real or imagined: Is the airflow through the radiator seriously impeded with it placed against the bulkhead and does that also put extra strain on the fan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 The heater is mounted half way between the back of the instruments/wiring and the bulkhead leaving about 3” clearance on each side. The fresh air inlet directs air down the bulkhead across the front of the matrix. For the curious among us the auxiliary CB speaker hangs from a bracket screwed to the heater and is inn turn bolted to the CB housing. looks like there’s still a bit of tidying to do under there too :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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