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Hi Erik (sorry for spelling your name incorrectly!)

 

You need an H9 expanding reamer for the nylon bushes, something like this:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADJUSTABLE-HAND-REAMER-H9-25-32-27-32-19-84mm-21-43mm-/282465663567?hash=item41c443fa4f:g:BTwAAMXQ0pNQ-7YD

 

The washers may also need to be reduced in thickness a little, which you can do with wet and dry paper on a piece of glass or something flat.

 

These are the oilite bushes I used:

 

http://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr3128/name/bush-oilite

 

You need 2 per control arm, so 4 per side and 8 for a full car set. According to the website, these shouldn't need reaming, however mine were too tight and needed a little taken off the ID to fit. To do this I used an H6 reamer.

 

Ideally they should be removed and fitted with a press, however a large vice and some old sockets worked for me.

 

Cheers,

Steve

 

 

 

Hi Steve,

 

can I find the "hand reamer" on ebay using that wording?

 

The control arm bronze bushes: do you have a Moss or Rimmer Brothers reference?

 

I plan an replacing the trunnions as well, per good advice from RogerH and others.

 

Spraying PTFE helps temporarily so far, I have to do some more driving but it seems ok until now -quite embarassing this creaking-.

 

Grts,

Erik

 

 

 

 

Just be aware that the bushes are supplied with the ID undersize so need to be reamed to fit. I bought a cheap expandable hand reamer on eBay, which did the job nicely.

 

At the same time I replaced all the rubber components with SuperPro bushes and the control arm bronze bushes with oilite ones.

 

I bought a Moss spring compressor which worked well, although as others have said, it wouldn't be too difficult to make one:

 

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/spring-compressor-tr-386-895.html

 

Cheers,

Steve

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Hello all,

 

I had a similar 'creaking' problem on my 4 a few months ago. As previously mentioned by others, the noise is due to the nylon lower wishbone inner bearings being dried out.

 

Being a simple chap I tried spraying them with WD40 - problem solved for a few days until the next rainstorm washed it out. So next time a used a few drops of engine oil either side of the bearing - so far, after a few months silence reigns!

 

Hope this solution will help others.

 

Cheers,

 

JeffR

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Next time I work on the front axle I think about to put the PU-bushes on the lathe,

cut out 2 mm and set inside DIY-made slotted bushes of POM - without any grease.

Did anyone try this already?

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I think engine oil is far too viscous - but may work in the short term. Nor would I use WD40.

I have nylon bushes, fitted in 1993, and for more than 20 years have been applying a lubricant which contains PTFE. It's juice which the father one of my son's schoolfriends recommended, and I passed the information to Neil Revington, who flogs the stuff as Masterlube.

When I grease the suspension, I squirt this under the rubber reel at each side of the bush. It's a fiddly job as there's not much room there.

Recently, in rather a hurry with the greasing, I failed to apply the magic fluid and on my return journey from the Sherborne Classic Car Show to Tring, the creaking started. Silly me - front wheels had to be removed again.

 

And, as others have said, NEVER use a pair of external clamps on the front spring of a TR - you might not live to tell the tale. It's essential to use the proper, internal, tool, even if it is home made (but from decent materials).

 

Ian Cornish

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Hi Steve,

these are from a US seller, as far as I know he does not ship to Belgium? Can I get these from Moss or Rimmers?

 

Greeting,

Erik

Revingtons are a UK seller and they will ship to you no problem.

Stuart.

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Perhaps you like this, I´ve been told it´s better than Moss because of the balled head

 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/232403344817?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Hi, I would like to buy this one. I see the offering has ended: would you be willing to manufacture a few more?

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Hi, if there is interest I will do some more, normaly this is a christmas holiday job.

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Hi Erik (sorry for spelling your name incorrectly!)

 

You need an H9 expanding reamer for the nylon bushes, something like this:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADJUSTABLE-HAND-REAMER-H9-25-32-27-32-19-84mm-21-43mm-/282465663567?hash=item41c443fa4f:g:BTwAAMXQ0pNQ-7YD

 

The washers may also need to be reduced in thickness a little, which you can do with wet and dry paper on a piece of glass or something flat.

 

These are the oilite bushes I used:

 

http://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr3128/name/bush-oilite

 

You need 2 per control arm, so 4 per side and 8 for a full car set. According to the website, these shouldn't need reaming, however mine were too tight and needed a little taken off the ID to fit. To do this I used an H6 reamer.

 

Ideally they should be removed and fitted with a press, however a large vice and some old sockets worked for me.

 

Cheers,

Steve

 

 

 

I bought H6 and H9 reamers from RDG Tools

 

They just arrived, perfectly packaged, with DPD (impeccable delivery to my hard-to-find address), and such a nice tool finish! I can absolutely recommend this supplier. Thank you Steve for the info given in a pm.

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Hi Erik,

RDG are indeed a fine company. Many of the model engineers over here building the most wonderful large scale model steam engines use them.

 

Another company that is worth noting is Tracy Tools in Devon. Every sort of tap and die available.

 

Roger

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+1 for Tracey Tools.

 

They send you a 24 page printed paper catalogue when you buy anything, tempting you to spend all your pocket money.

They also sell Helicoils, drill bits (every sort ever invented), and a host of other engineering stuff.

 

Good prices too.

 

Charlie

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You won’t regret it. It’s superbly made.

I just received my Churchill Tool from Z320. What a perfect piece of engineering. Cheaper than the Moss equivalent and the ball head is a very clever idea.

 

Recommended!

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Hi Erik (sorry for spelling your name incorrectly!)

 

You need an H9 expanding reamer for the nylon bushes, something like this:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADJUSTABLE-HAND-REAMER-H9-25-32-27-32-19-84mm-21-43mm-/282465663567?hash=item41c443fa4f:g:BTwAAMXQ0pNQ-7YD

 

The washers may also need to be reduced in thickness a little, which you can do with wet and dry paper on a piece of glass or something flat.

 

These are the oilite bushes I used:

 

http://www.revingtontr.com/product/rtr3128/name/bush-oilite

 

You need 2 per control arm, so 4 per side and 8 for a full car set. According to the website, these shouldn't need reaming, however mine were too tight and needed a little taken off the ID to fit. To do this I used an H6 reamer.

 

Ideally they should be removed and fitted with a press, however a large vice and some old sockets worked for me.

 

Cheers,

Steve

 

 

 

I'd guess the Oilite bushes are something like this.

http://www.bowman.co.uk/bearing-selector?code=BI/AA%20710-27

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I just received my Churchill Tool from Z320. What a perfect piece of engineering. Cheaper than the Moss equivalent and the ball head is a very clever idea.

 

Recommended!

 

Hi Erik,

 

thank you very much for your laud.

The first time I had to work on the front axle I was able to use a original Churchill tool from the 1960-ies!

Because it is not able to buy one I sized the original funktion down to its essential.

In my workshop I now have a futher small number in production, ready next week.

 

Ciao Marco &:-)

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