Jayhawks Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Greetings. I am not only a newbie here, I know virtually nothing about cars, let alone TR6. Two years ago, on a whim, I bought a 1971 TR6 with overdrive. The guy who sold it drove it and it drove ok. He did say that the fuel injection system needs looking at by someone from 'that era'. I had it MOTd, insured but didn't drive. Now it wont start. Had battery replaced and it was looked at by some one from that era but he won't do the work. Says it is too much. He gave me a list of things wrong. I don't want to sell it for parts. Please can anyone recommend a honest guy with the knowledge to fix it and make it roadworthy? I just want to drive it. I am in Berkshire. Will get the car transported to the garage. Very grateful for your help. Thank you and have a great day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parky Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hi Jayhawks, You will need to contact you local group the details are on the forum, they should be able to help you. Good luck. Parky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 What was the list of things wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR5tar Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Where in Berkshire are you? Â You are probably not far from Protek Engineering, a firm that specializes in TRs. Let me know if you want the contact details and I'll send them over. Â As Parky said, it would be good for you to contact your local group, as there might well be people there willing to advise. Once we know where in Berkshire you are, we can tell you who is most local to you. Â Welcome to the forum by the way. Â Cheers, Darren Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Where in Berkshire are you? Â You are probably not far from Protek Engineering, a firm that specializes in TRs. Let me know if you want the contact details and I'll send them over. Â As Parky said, it would be good for you to contact your local group, as there might well be people there willing to advise. Once we know where in Berkshire you are, we can tell you who is most local to you. Â Welcome to the forum by the way. Â Cheers, Darren I would go to Enginenuty in Acton London, this company has the most experience in the Home Counties of dealing with all models of TRs and has the equipment/experience to do any type of TR work. He works to strict time tables and there is no being messed about and continual chasing up! Unfortunately I speak from experience of dealing with others. Â Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hi Jayhawks What is the 'list of things' and where abouts in Berkshire are you? If the PO drove it and you obviously managed to get it mot'd I'm sure it'll run with a bit of coaxing. Â Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I wonder if the car has been sitting for a long while and the petrol has drained back to the tank. It will need quite a bit of churning and letting the pump push the petrol back to the injectors. Also the petrol has now probably gone stale which will not help.  Lets see the list of problems, as others have said I bet it is not as bad as it seems  KC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Stale petrol will destroy the PI elastomeric components , even if they are fairly new and rated for unleaded fuels. You need someone that knows their way around Lucas PI systems - that tends to limit the field considerably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Stale petrol will destroy the PI elastomeric components , even if they are fairly new and rated for unleaded fuels. You need someone that knows their way around Lucas PI systems - that tends to limit the field considerably. Hence, That's why I recommended Enginenuty, they developed the Bosch replacement pump system along with KMI 40 years ago! Â Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Guys, I am so grateful. and overwhelmed at the same time for your very kind replies. I am in Wokingham, Berkshire. The list of problems as the guy said are (apparently he gave up listing when it hit page 2!). He replaced the battery and put some Fuel System Cleaner which he said would help. I tried this morning, it would start, run even but keeps mis-firing. So left it there. Â Injector problem (no. 2 injector not working). Temperature not working, Clutch Pad + Cap U.S. (which he tells me means unservicable). Thurst Bearing Noisy, Slave cylinder leaking. Body: O/S Door window winder not working, Body Flex Under Body: Various leaks from Diff, G/Box overdrive, Exhaust leaking and rattling, Brake pipes and fuel pipes rusty, underbody Boshes all perished (?) Brakes: O/S/F Disc Heavy Scored, Servo does not seem to be working, Hand brake not efficient. Â Is there any hope or shall I just give up and send it to Junkyard as my wife been telling me? Â Also, I am working at the moment in Suffolk. Has anyone has experience with a garage called TRGB Ltd. Somersham, Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire. I saw they took out a full page advert in a TR6 related magazine. Â Once again, many thanks. Forever grateful for your replies. Â Jayhawks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 I would go to Enginenuty in Acton London, this company has the most experience in the Home Counties of dealing with all models of TRs and has the equipment/experience to do any type of TR work. He works to strict time tables and there is no being messed about and continual chasing up! Unfortunately I speak from experience of dealing with others. Â Bruce Thank you kind Sir. I will contact them first thing tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Where in Berkshire are you? Â You are probably not far from Protek Engineering, a firm that specializes in TRs. Let me know if you want the contact details and I'll send them over. Â As Parky said, it would be good for you to contact your local group, as there might well be people there willing to advise. Once we know where in Berkshire you are, we can tell you who is most local to you. Â Welcome to the forum by the way. Â Cheers, Darren I am not sure if this is the best way to respond to your message so forgive me if it is annoying to all. Thank you for the warm welcome and advice. I will be sure to contact Protek with the list of problems and see if they would/could help. Â Thanks again, Â Jayhawks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hi Jayhawks What is the 'list of things' and where abouts in Berkshire are you? If the PO drove it and you obviously managed to get it mot'd I'm sure it'll run with a bit of coaxing. Â Dave Thank you Sir. I have posted the 'list' above. I am in Wokingham. I just want to drive it and not give in to my wife's constant demand to send it to a junkyard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Jayhawks Don't scrap it! All that is repairable. Nearer to home is possibly Beech Hill Garage They are the 'enemy' MG but they do other classics too! At least it runs possibly... tapping the no2 injector may get it to cheer up! Also changing the stale petrol out will definitely improve the engine running! Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Jayhawk, Problems? Injector problem (no. 2 injector not working). Trivial, may be repairable, but reconditioned injectors are available Temperature not working. Trivial, probably. Could be the sensor, the electrical supply, or the gauge. All can be bought, or repaired. Clutch Pad + Cap U.S. (which he tells me means unservicable). "Pad" = friction ("driven") plate?? "Cap" = Clutch cover plate. Non-trivial replacement, gearbox, or engine-and-gearbox must come out, but all parts available. Thurst Bearing Noisy, ditto Slave cylinder leaking. Trivial, probably needs new one, available. Body: O/S Door window winder not working, Almost certainly repairable, but fiddly job Body Flex Ah, this might be the killer! Needs detailed examination to assess extent of corrosion or damage, to body shell or chasis, BUT many parts available and those that aren't can be made. https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID600270 Under Body: Various leaks from Diff, G/Box overdrive, It is said that Triumphs don't leak, they just 'mark their territory' . Can be sorted, if only by a rebuild but sometimes by just new gaskets! Exhaust leaking and rattling, The leak is serious, you don't want carbon monoxide in the car, but an old exhaust is probably rusted through. Available. Brake pipes and fuel pipes rusty, Rusty, not rusted through, again all can be replaced, either in the fullness of time or now, your choice underbody Boshes all perished (?) Bushes, I think, yes they do perish, they are nearly fifty years old! All available. Brakes: O/S/F Disc Heavy Scored, Servo does not seem to be working, Hand brake not efficient. All available, or may be adjusted to proper function. When I say "available" that means they can be bought. I said it a lot, so this might cost a lot, just in parts, plus labour much of which you can DiY. Even if you don't intend to DiY, do get a workshop manual, facsimile https://www.amazon.co.uk/Triumph-TR6-Repair-Operation-Manual/dp/1869826132 (also online) or a Haynes https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RR1020?gclid=Cj0KEQjw9YTJBRD0vKClruOsuOwBEiQAGkQjP3aijKS-4f-ah3YL04MS_-MFucblqaUhY3Djm5uiri4aAsc58P8HAQso you know more about the car. I've referenced Rimmer's as a leading Triumph supplier. to show availability, but others are 'available' (!) I can't say anything about TRGB, I haven't used them, but some here must have. The firm is well-established and known: https://www.trgb.co.uk/ It would be a shame to junk it! John Edited May 21, 2017 by john.r.davies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Always remember Jay  There is nothing that cannot be fixed with money!!!!  kc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Jayhawk, As John indicated above about the body (and /or chassis): Ask for a thorough inspection and a cost estimate before work commences, and differentiate between what needs to be done now and what can be done later. Good luck, Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Jayhawk, TRs are hardly ever 'junked' these days. It has a value as it is to an enthusiast,warts and all. So if the remediation is too much for you/wife to contemplate having done, offer it on here first as a complete 'non-runner' PI TR6 ! Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Jayhawk, Problems? Injector problem (no. 2 injector not working). Trivial, may be repairable, but reconditioned injectors are available Temperature not working. Trivial, probably. Could be the sensor, the electrical supply, or the gauge. All can be bought, or repaired. Clutch Pad + Cap U.S. (which he tells me means unservicable). "Pad" = friction ("driven") plate?? "Cap" = Clutch cover plate. Non-trivial replacement, gearbox, or engine-and-gearbox must come out, but all parts available. Thurst Bearing Noisy, ditto Slave cylinder leaking. Trivial, probably needs new one, available. Body: O/S Door window winder not working, Almost certainly repairable, but fiddly job Body Flex Ah, this might be the killer! Needs detailed examination to assess extent of corrosion or damage, to body shell or chasis, BUT many parts available and those that aren't can be made. https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID600270 Under Body: Various leaks from Diff, G/Box overdrive, It is said that Triumphs don't leak, they just 'mark their territory' . Can be sorted, if only by a rebuild but sometimes by just new gaskets! Exhaust leaking and rattling, The leak is serious, you don't want carbon monoxide in the car, but an old exhaust is probably rusted through. Available. Brake pipes and fuel pipes rusty, Rusty, not rusted through, again all can be replaced, either in the fullness of time or now, your choice underbody Boshes all perished (?) Bushes, I think, yes they do perish, they are nearly fifty years old! All available. Brakes: O/S/F Disc Heavy Scored, Servo does not seem to be working, Hand brake not efficient. All available, or may be adjusted to proper function. When I say "available" that means they can be bought. I said it a lot, so this might cost a lot, just in parts, plus labour much of which you can DiY. Even if you don't intend to DiY, do get a workshop manual, facsimile https://www.amazon.co.uk/Triumph-TR6-Repair-Operation-Manual/dp/1869826132 (also online) or a Haynes https://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RR1020?gclid=Cj0KEQjw9YTJBRD0vKClruOsuOwBEiQAGkQjP3aijKS-4f-ah3YL04MS_-MFucblqaUhY3Djm5uiri4aAsc58P8HAQso you know more about the car. I've referenced Rimmer's as a leading Triumph supplier. to show availability, but others are 'available' (!) I can't say anything about TRGB, I haven't used them, but some here must have. The firm is well-established and known: https://www.trgb.co.uk/ It would be a shame to junk it! John What can I say. I am touched by your generosity with time and kindness. I will contact these garages, to see who will take it on. I am now more than ever determined NOT to get rid of it. Hopefully, with someone who knows these cars looking at it, it will be running again. Even if I just catch the last of the summer sun in it. Thank you and thank you everyone who has responded so kindly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jayhawks Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Guys, all your kind and helpful comments have more determined than ever to get the car fixed properly. I am told the body is a good B and everything in the car is original. So I will contact the three garages mentioned above and see who will take it on and I sure want to drive it before summer is officially out. Wish me luck and I will keep you posted. Thanks again and all the best. You guys have been fabulous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hi Jayhawks  This forum is fantastic, i joined in 2011 and have learned so much over the years and two TR6s  As well as the varius garages already mentioned, its worth going along to meet your local TR Register group, most have monthly mert ups.  Here you can chat to other TR fans and you'll no doubt find offers of help forthcoming.  The TR5 or 6 with the PI motor is a real joy once its running properly, and if used regularly they stay running well for years.  I had the PI refurbed on mine in late 2012 and it has run perfectly ever since.  Look forward to hearing how you get on, and seeing pictures, we like pictures!  Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pinky Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017  If you join the local group you might find some one retired that would take the job on for extra pocket money  pink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john.r.davies Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Plus 1 - plus 10! - for your local group, either or both near your home or work. Â AND, please keep us informed - we like to see a Lazarus rise! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR5tar Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) I can recommend TRGB Jay. I bought my TR via them and was very impressed with their service. However, as others say, your first port of call should be your local group, which for you in Wokingham will be Windsor Forest. Jeff Roberts, their leader, is a good chap, so why not give him a call 07582 303213 or email gl@wftr.co.uk. They will be very willing to advise. Â Cheers, Darren Edited May 23, 2017 by TR5tar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Greetings. I am not only a newbie here, I know virtually nothing about cars, let alone TR6. Two years ago, on a whim, I bought a 1971 TR6 with overdrive. The guy who sold it drove it and it drove ok. He did say that the fuel injection system needs looking at by someone from 'that era'. I had it MOTd, insured but didn't drive. Now it wont start. Had battery replaced and it was looked at by some one from that era but he won't do the work. Says it is too much. He gave me a list of things wrong. I don't want to sell it for parts. Please can anyone recommend a honest guy with the knowledge to fix it and make it roadworthy? I just want to drive it. I am in Berkshire. Will get the car transported to the garage. Very grateful for your help. Thank you and have a great day.   Hi Jayhawks This forum is fantastic, i joined in 2011 and have learned so much over the years and two TR6s As well as the varius garages already mentioned, its worth going along to meet your local TR Register group, most have monthly mert ups. Here you can chat to other TR fans and you'll no doubt find offers of help forthcoming. The TR5 or 6 with the PI motor is a real joy once its running properly, and if used regularly they stay running well for years. I had the PI refurbed on mine in late 2012 and it has run perfectly ever since. Look forward to hearing how you get on, and seeing pictures, we like pictures! Steve + another 1 for your local group, they know every secret corner for TR support The PI is brilliant once you have it sorted. Mine was a bit lumpy at cold and hungry all the time Had Clive Manvers (RIP) sort it out and after that no issues, just quick start and smooth running.  The moral of my short story; Seek out a good, local(ish) specialist and, depending on just where you live, Protek in Wallingford would be a great option, and let them sort it for you  And yes . . . .pictures are always good  It will be worth it. Edited May 22, 2017 by wjgco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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