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Tr4a - PCV system, and bonnet


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Hi folks, I just found this forum.

 

I just bought a 65 Tr4a. It's a good "driver" car, and looks pretty good from 20 feet!???? I will probably go down the restoration path some day, but for now I'm just going to enjoy it. Although the previous owner(s) did some "creative" mods to it (mostly electrical), for now I'm going through all the items to make it safe and comfortable to drive. However I do have two questions:

 

- the PO removed the Tr4a PCV plumbing and replaced it with the Tr4 vent tube and added a small breather element on the valve cover fitting. Is this venting sufficient, or should I source a Tr4a system?

 

- the car has a fiberglass bonnet. From what I can tell, new metal bonnets are unavailable, and the used ones I've seen online look pretty rough. For now it's fine, but when I restore it I want to go back to metal. Does anyone know of a good supplier that might have a metal bonnet? I might want to score one now and store it until needed.

 

Thanks

 

Jim

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Hi Jim, I assume you mean the 1 ins bore vent tube from the crankcase below the fuel pump. Together with a plain vent from the rocker cover this is a far superior set up to the PCV which was only brough in to appease emission regulations.

Mine has been running like this for 18 years, better performance and less to go wrong.

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Hi Jim,

When I fitted a fast road cam I was advised by a reputable TR specialist that the first thing you do after buying a 4A is remove this valve & put it in the bin. It was fitted for emission control reasons and just screws up the performance. I have the inlet manifold take off point blocked off & feed the outlet on the rocker cover to an oil trap on the bulkhead. many people just fit a length of suitable tube to the rocker outlet & drop it down by the side of the engine to vent under the car (as I did or the first few years). Not quite so environmentally correct but just as effective!

I was tempted to use the inlet manifold take off to provide a vacuum for an after market brake servo but was advised that as this is offset towards the left carb it would b*gger up the fuel balance. I had a hole drilled & tapped in the centre & this works just fine.

cheers.

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Hi Jim,

When I fitted a fast road cam I was advised by a reputable TR specialist that the first thing you do after buying a 4A is remove this valve & put it in the bin. It was fitted for emission control reasons and just screws up the performance. I have the inlet manifold take off point blocked off & feed the outlet on the rocker cover to an oil trap on the bulkhead. many people just fit a length of suitable tube to the rocker outlet & drop it down by the side of the engine to vent under the car (as I did or the first few years). Not quite so environmentally correct but just as effective!

I was tempted to use the inlet manifold take off to provide a vacuum for an after market brake servo but was advised that as this is offset towards the left carb it would b*gger up the fuel balance. I had a hole drilled & tapped in the centre & this works just fine.

cheers.

This got me thinking. Can anyone corroborate that the PCV affects performance? Also how would the connection of a servo to the offset vacuum take off affect balance as there shouldn't be any flow? Edited by peejay4A
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TBH as long as the engine isnt breathing lots of oil through the PCV then it shouldnt make that much difference and there wouldnt really be any difference in the angling of the take off as the balance tube is just that "Balancing" the two.

Stuart.

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AFAIK, as with the vacuum advance, a servo take off from the inlet manifold does not have any air passing through it. The servo/advance use the difference in pressure between atmospheric and the manifold, by way of a diaphragm.

 

Mike

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Thanks for the responses. Regarding the PCV, I do have the Tr4 style tube vent that attaches near the fuel pump. The manifold inlet is capped. On the valve cover tube, the PO attached a small aftermarket breather element that looks like a tiny air cleaner. From your descriptions above, it sounds like this should work fine. BTW- I looked at this small breather and do not see any evidence of it being wet with oil. Is that good or bad? Based on some descriptions above, I was expecting to see at least some oil on the element.

 

Jim

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