johnhodges Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I'm looking for paint charts for complete 2-3A range including any export only colours. Can anybody help?. I've tried the link to the US VTR club site but this is members only. Regards John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonlar Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Can't help you directly John, but I believe Chris Cunnington is looking at trying to negotiate access for TR Reg. members to get access at some future time, but here's some links for you to have a 'play' with http://autocolorlibrary.com/acl_files/triumph.html http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphcolors/#colors http://www.shcolor.info./ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnhodges Posted September 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Thanks for the links, but they all seem later than what I want I'm trying to match a South African re-import which has been wrongly sprayed Powder Blue, but the engine bay is the original colour and could be Salvador Blue or Winchester Blue, but withour a colour chart to compare, I don't know which if either it is. It seems a pity that nobody in the Register has access to actual paint chipsso we can compare colours. Regards John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonlar Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hi John, any chance of posting a pic. with the colour well lit by daylight, someone in here'll recognise it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j-eichert Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi John, any chance to identify - via age/ production number: at least winchester blue was available only for the '57 TR3 model and the '58 TR3A model. The later one being discontinued in November '57 already. Probably they ran out of paint, because too many customers bought this colour.. - Bill Pigott: I traced my original colour on this route (pearl grey) as well as the original state of delivery I'm painting my 3A in winchesterblue: This colour is mixed up from deep blue, white and black: a medium blue (not dark - not lignht blue) with a greyish touch. Maybe this helps. In german we called it "pidgeons blue", as you find similar grey-blue tones on these birds. The remains of original colour I found, led me to the conclusion that my original colour was white, maybe pearl white. So the old remains on the car may mislead, as they may change with age as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ppenguin Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi John, I have a jpeg copy of a Triumph paint chart from 1953 to 1965 which covers Winchester Blue but not Salvador Blue. If the following link doesn't work or you would like me to send you a bigger copy, drop me an email. http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/po77xbx Regards Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Elliott Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Here is a very nice TR3 in the blue you mentioned. I believe that they only changed the name, not the colour. I have heard that Salvator blue and Winchester blue are the same. Don Elliott, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnhodges Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Thanks Pete Received emailed paint chart and winchester blue looks close regards John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DSOMERVILLE Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I have a Dockers paint chip book . Winchester blue is slighly darker blue than Salavador blue . Winchester is the nicer blue , Salavador is a bit dull looking . hope that helps David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
david ferry Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Received emailed paint chart and winchester blue looks close John, In respect of any colours on your computer screen, or printed out, are you sure that these are an accurate reproduction of the actual colour you are looking for? I suggest going back a little and finding actual colour charts/swatches and using these. Good luck David Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnhodges Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi David I agree that second hand scanned in charts are not ideal but who has an orginal that they are prepared to lend out? I think that as the colours are limited it's near enought to guess the colour, when it comes to getting the paint match that is the next subject. Regards John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Elliott Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 The latest issue of TR Action (No. 205) just arrived today and on page 28 is a bit about colours etc for the TR sidescreen cars. Unfortunately they didn't print the address for that web-site. Don Elliott, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEPHEN KELLY Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Does anyone have a source for locating the Winchester Blue paint formula that was used on the '57 & '58 Triumph? I have the Sherwin Williams card with the name & chip #, but local SW locations are unable to create the formula. ICI code is 2922, Martin Senour NAPA is 25430, & Sherwin Williams is ChipT-29, SW Order JO-JK No.8933 & Formula Loc #IC-307. This was a great color but unable to find it by any of the suppliers. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) I believe I have but ..I’ll dig it out and revert Here are the paint formulas, I have a chip for each colour in vgc. Iain Standard Triumph Paint Names and Formulae - Valentine.xlsx Edited October 26, 2019 by iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEPHEN KELLY Posted October 26, 2019 Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 Thanks Iain for the paint names & formulas. Not sure what brand of paint or whether these percentages would transfer into a local paint brand such as PPG Deltron. I have an excellent car painter here in Texas but needing to provide him with the correct paint formula or something to cross reference to recreate Winchester Blue for my TR. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 I doubt they are useful....% of tints are not used these days to my knowledge.....it’s all weights. I have a very good colour chip which I could get scanned at a paint factors for you? Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEPHEN KELLY Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Iain, A scanned color chip may be helpful. Not sure if local paint supplier could match it but worth a try. Hard to believe that the formulas are not archived or cross referenced somewhere, especially when Sherwin Williams, ICI, & Martin Senour show Winchester Blue on their old color charts. Thanks, Steve I doubt they are useful....% of tints are not used these days to my knowledge.....it’s all weights. I have a very good colour chip which I could get scanned at a paint factors for you? Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malcolm Tatton Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 When this came up earlier there were two possible avenues Tom Boyd has a formula for water based paint Willie Felger had some mixed as Rover Winchester blue I have just checked the almost empty tin in my garage, and it also lists Rover Winchester blue which was available from my local supplier but in 2 pack only (not cellulose or 1 pack synthetic). Paint appears to be Prospray 2K Don't know whether it helps... Malcolm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lisa Vincelli Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hello All, I am still looking for the correct information on Winchester Blue to give to my painter as well. Any updates appreciated! Lisa Vincelli Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamgl Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hi Lisa, Try contacting this company. Graham https://shop.autopaintsbrighton.co.uk/triumph-classic--vintage-car-paint-cellulose-codes--colours-596-p.asp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STEPHEN KELLY Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Hi Lisa, After several months, believe I have found the paint formula for '57/'58 TR3 Winchester Blue from PPG archives. Waiting to verify from my painter that the formula from PPG recreates the correct shade. Let me know if you still need that information. Steve On 1/20/2020 at 8:45 AM, Lisa Vincelli said: Hello All, I am still looking for the correct information on Winchester Blue to give to my painter as well. Any updates appreciated! Lisa Vincelli Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Whitaker Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Sorry to hijack this thread, but I was intrigued to see the paint chip sheet and list on this page. My car is a 60/61 3a, and the heritage build sheet lists the colour as Triumph racing green, which I had been led to believe was the same as British racing green. However it is clearly listed as a different colour as both appear on the sheet and look very different, although there is a slight discrepancy in the years. I am going to get some paint tomorrow to spray the underside of the car so will have to see what I am able to find out, although from what I can tell on the computer screen it looks very similar to Valencia blue as used on Heralds and Vitesses in the 60s. I have put a picture on which although the paint is badly oxidised does seem to have a bluish tint to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffR Posted February 14, 2020 Report Share Posted February 14, 2020 Hi All, See this link to the TR Register France paint chart which was sourced, as the heading to the chart states, from Bob Coe of Nexa Autocolour (ex ICI Autocolour, Canada). It states they are the original colours used by BL for the Triumph range. http://www.trregisterfrance.com/meca/paint.htm Cheers, JeffR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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