Graham Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Apologies I'm sure this topic has been covered before but I did do a search but can't find the thread. I'm planning to change the rear bulbs to LED, for the coloured lamps (indicator/brake light) am I better of having clear LED's relying on the lens to colour the light or go for the coloured LED bulbs. Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember a comment saying that the coloured LED bulbs gave a better result ? (Will be changing flasher unit as well) Can anybody advise ATB Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Morrison Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Red not clear. John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) White LEDs are no good as the red/orange content of the light is very low compared with an incandescent bulb. If you want to use LEDs they need to be of the right colour. Here are links to a couple of recent discussions: http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/52751-led-bulbs/?hl=bulbs http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/53098-led-brake-lights/?hl=bulbs&do=findComment&comment=436388 Edited December 21, 2015 by RobH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted December 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Thanks Guys as I suspected I need to order the coloured ones ATB Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Graham, If you can wait two weeks then http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-Super-Bright-27-SMD-5050-LED-Red-White-1157-BAY15D-P21-5W-Car-Tail-Led/1771422822.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.h2KZ6f&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_1_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201560_8 At £3.81 for two with free postage. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobH Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Graham, If you can wait two weeks then http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-Super-Bright-27-SMD-5050-LED-Red-White-1157-BAY15D-P21-5W-Car-Tail-Led/1771422822.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.h2KZ6f&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_1_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201560_8 At £3.81 for two with free postage. Alan But no good for sidescreen cars of course where the bulb is vertical instead of end-on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Aarrghh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisR-4A Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hi Hraham, I have some photos of the better lighting bulbs fitted to my car pm me if you want a copy. Regards Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Bourne Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 But no good for sidescreen cars of course where the bulb is vertical instead of end-on. Hi Rob I'm biased, as we sell them, but we do the right angle bulbs for side screen. Rear/stop and tail. Expensive, but they are good. www.litezupp.org.uk/about/4578949501 I'm in Maidenhead, Berkshire, so if you are not far away, then you can try them out if you want. Best Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Sidescreen rear bulbs are not vertical, they sit at around 30° to the vertical. I have yet to find the perfect LED bulb for these. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Posted December 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 But no good for sidescreen cars of course where the bulb is vertical instead of end-on. Graham, If you can wait two weeks then http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pcs-Super-Bright-27-SMD-5050-LED-Red-White-1157-BAY15D-P21-5W-Car-Tail-Led/1771422822.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.h2KZ6f&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2,searchweb201644_1_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201560_8 At £3.81 for two with free postage. Alan Doh! wish I had seen this just paid £8 each for them ! …..plus postage ……..fool and his money comes to mind ATB Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Sidescreen rear bulbs are not vertical, they sit at around 30° to the vertical. I have yet to find the perfect LED bulb for these. Bob. My whole sidescreen sits 30 degrees to the vertical ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytr5 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Fitted the ones from Bill to a mates TR3a and he and I were very impressed. When you hold them in your hand you can see why they are expensive. A work of art and they are sooooo good. Regards Harry TR5 Nutter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CliveG Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I second Harry's comments on the Litezupp LEDs. Well worth the extra money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Freer Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Ditto I put some pics up in this thread #12 http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/53098-led-brake-lights/?hl=bulbs&do=findComment&comment=436388 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Hi Rob I'm biased, as we sell them, but we do the right angle bulbs for side screen. Rear/stop and tail. Expensive, but they are good. www.litezupp.org.uk/about/4578949501 I'm in Maidenhead, Berkshire, so if you are not far away, then you can try them out if you want. Best Bill Hi Bill,that above Link don't seem to Work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Bourne Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hi Bill,that above Link don't seem to Work. Hi Niall That's strange - try this http://www.litezupp.org.uk Or simply type in the website address. Best Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Hi Niall That's strange - try this http://www.litezupp.org.uk Or simply type in the website address. Best Bill Thanks Bill,that one Works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deggers Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) After having spent the dark winter months driving about in the 3A with the old Lucas bulbs glimmering at the rear end, I decided it was time I finally got round to improving the lighting situation. Gave the guys at LiteZupp a call. Got straight through to Phil (had a good long chat about sidescreen TRs), and purchased a pair of red right-angled stop/tail lights (L57RN). Extremely prompt delivery - followed by a simple like-for-like swap of the Lucas 1157 bulbs. Sorted, and very happy with the results! Many thanks again fellas, one more satisfied customer. Cheers, Deggers Edited March 13, 2016 by Deggers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctc77965o Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 All, I work in R&D for LED technology and must admit a conflict of interest in this recommendation, but I will make it anyway as I have a good personal experience! You may not know it, but a proper 1156/1157 type filament lamp has the filament oriented to the bayonet...our lamp holders in the TR are designed so that the filament is oriented to maximise the light bouncing off the reflector..that makes the red lense illuminate evenly. I recently discovered the US division of the company i work for makes these ZEVO brand replacement LED lamps: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZEVO-RED-1157R-SUPER-BRIGHT-LED-LIGHTS-COMPATIBLE-WITH-2357-2057-BY-SYLVANIA-/322033830156?hash=item4afab6490c:g:dX8AAOSwzgRWt5wZ&vxp=mtr I can tell you that these lamps use the same LED technology as used in the lamps of the latest production cars, with one or two LED chips you can create enough light for a brake light. In this product the LEDs point 'backwards' and because they are oriented to the bayonet and hence the reflector, your lenses are evenly illuminated with no dark or bright spots. They are also meeting the correct physical dimensions, so they emit the light at the 'focal point' as Triumph/Lucas intended. I have fitted them to a couple of old cars and am very pleased with the performance....car is safe to use in modern wet/dark conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Seems like most of the sellers of them unfortunately wont ship to the UK. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianc Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 As far as I know, none of the LED bulbs will make the driver aware that the has been a failure of the bulb, or a loss of connection in the feed to the bulb or in the return ("earth") path. With the filament bulb, any such failure results in a much faster rate of flash, and the observant driver will know immediately that something is amiss. I agree that well-designed and manufactured LED bulbs are much brighter, have a much longer life and are physically more robust, but drivers need to check that the trafficators really are operating correctly. Ian Cornish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 As far as I know, none of the LED bulbs will make the driver aware that the has been a failure of the bulb, or a loss of connection in the feed to the bulb or in the return ("earth") path. With the filament bulb, any such failure results in a much faster rate of flash, and the observant driver will know immediately that something is amiss. I agree that well-designed and manufactured LED bulbs are much brighter, have a much longer life and are physically more robust, but drivers need to check that the trafficators really are operating correctly. Ian Cornish Exactly what you should do on these cars everytime you take them out, doesnt take 30 secs. No bulb failure modules here. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Perhaps some of our trans Atlantic members could act as a go between ? Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Hi Ian, I have made a magical box that the 'stop' lights go through. If the bulb does no illuminate for any reason (no current flow) then I get a warning on the dash. Quite a simple circuit. This could be done for any bulb. However as the LED bulbs take so little current then that may make my circuit have to think a bit. But is possible. How many warning lights do you want on the dash. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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