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Like this, monty? Seen on several cars at the Goodwood Revival 2013.

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Yes Don, the top one is similar but I like to think that mine is a little neater as I have attached the wire to one of those cover securing screws, with a spade connector.

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My brothers got a 73 Aston V8 injection and that has left hand threaded wheel nuts on one side and right on the other took a

bit of head scratching at first thought just very tight then noticed a `L` stamped on them.

 

regards Richard

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Lockwiring lightly tightened whatevers makes at least some sense to me. Where I disembark is highly stressed bolted connections, which none of these are.

 

I reckon the Weber 45s are on a 4-cylinder. The lids on my 40s have never loosened in over 100K miles ( if they're not tight they weep fuel ) but they're soft mounted on a 6-pot.

 

Hey, but that vintage ( arcane? ) appearance is unquestionable!

 

Cheers,

Tom

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Not required with Webers today

Well my wing nut came loose & vibrated off! Found it lodged on the manifold minus the gasket. Could have been loose & not noticed for a while but my safety wire did not take long to do, so no problem!

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...The wire locking on the Weber really isn't a thing of beauty. The end is not turned over and the strands are open at the end...

 

You're absolutely right, Roger -- not beautiful at all.

 

I almost hesitate to mention the car it was on!

 

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I was knocked out when I first saw a real Bugatti, with all the bolts holding the body onto the chassis lock wired in place. If ever a car shouted "hand made"!

Looking for a pic, I found this thread ona BMW site for goodness sake, full details on where what and how, and a pic of Bugatti wiring.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/58644-follow-up-to-all-the-safety-wiring/

 

John

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Hi John,

interesting pic of the Bug wiring - single strand !!!!

 

I prefer the twisted double wire as shown in Dons pic of the propeller post #8

The single strand always looks slack - more for anti-tamper than actual locking.

 

Also - how do you get the wire to look straight?

 

cut your length of wire. Put one end in a bench vice and pull on the other end with a Mole wrench.

You will feel the wire 'give' slightly. At that moment stop.

When you remove the wire from the vice and wrench it will resemble a stair rod.

It can now be twisted to give the correct shape and appearance.

 

 

Roger

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Naughty naughty Roger...taking it past its elastic limit!

Straight off the roll. 45deg twisted no more than 8 twists per inch, no longer than 3 inches unsupported length. Pull tight through the adjacent lock wire hole 4 twists, cut, fold exposed end back on itself for neatness.

Now can you remember the British method of wire locking a flight control turn buckle? :-)

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...a pic of Bugatti wiring...

 

Here's another one of safety lock wire on a Bugatti body, John. Single-strand lock wire holding the bodywork in place. Looks like copper wire.

 

Click on the image for a BIG version of the file.

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My brothers got a 73 Aston V8 injection and that has left hand threaded wheel nuts on one side and right on the other took a

bit of head scratching at first thought just very tight then noticed a `L` stamped on them.

 

regards Richard

My DB2/4 from 1954 had the same, I think it is normal for all spinners.

The idea is that the tyre and wheel hub will tend to move a tiny amount relative to the spline, especially under braking. That makes an anticlockwise relative motion on the nearside that will tend to undo the spinner if it had a normal right-hand thread.

When rebuilding it is easy to get them mixed up and then the relative motion will tend to undo both sides !!

And I might have got the sides mixed up...do check the manual.

Peter

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I understood Richard to be speaking of lug nuts, not a knock-off spinner.

 

There were some cars in the US during the 1960s -- Chrysler, for example -- that used handed nuts on traditional steel wheels. They created a lot of confusion among those not aware of that detail -- and probably still are confusing folks.

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Not required with Webers today

Very much required on webers today and yesterday, we lost a cap and after always lock wired them and many other parts on the MK1 Mexico, gearbox axle and sump plugs, exhaust manifold studs, diff housing dif cover, 9000rpm and forestry roads will loosen your teeth!!

 

John Worthing

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Roger,

Put your head under the front wing of an E type and prepare to be horrified by some of the wire locking done on the front suspension by specialist rebuilders. I have seen it done with what looked like used bits of cheap coat hangers on cars alledgedly worth 100K.

 

Wire locking is not an easy task first time. Getting it right tension wise and in 'lock' requires practise. I spent the first few days of my apprenticeship in the engine overhaul shop wire locking push rod tubes on a P&W Wasp radial engine. The pain was the engine bay inspector clipping my work with sidecutters when it was not to his satisfaction.

 

Cheers

Peter W

 

PS I have now abandoned lock tabs on the rear axle half shafts of the Girling axle. (6 per side) I now use classic Mini washer headed 7/16" AF hex bolts that I drill for wire locking. A whole lot easier to do up/undo and lock/release than with the 1/2" AF standard bolts.

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