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Hi Fellahs

 

I am about to replace the 16 x seals on the front suspension, ref part no 115702 (Moss ref.107 and 116). as they appear to have perished. (repro´s again).

Does anyone have any special tips on what to look out for, and what to do and what not to do.

Thanks all

 

Dave

 

 

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These never seem to last very long. I had most of my suspension apart this week to solder up the base of the trunnions, and I replaced the rubber seals with some slices taken off a bicycle inner tube. These are much more elastic than the originals, & tend to stay in place better, also you can cut them to whatever width you like. Time will tell if they last any longer, but I am optimistic.

 

Bob.

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I use wide Tie Wraps or side by side regular tie wraps on the inner areas that need the suspension pulling to bits to change.

 

 

Link here

http://www.alltradedirect.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=342_350

 

 

Peter W

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I would be inclined to try these the next time on mine....they have to be better than the rubber ones....

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-TR3-3A-3B-Front-Lower-Arm-Wishbone-Gease-Seal-Kit-SuperPro-Poly-/331403830320?fits=Car+Make%3ATriumph%7CModel%3ATR+3&hash=item4d29352430

 

Cheers

M. Pied Lourd

Kit includes 4 seals. TR needs 4 per side on inner ends of the lower arms, 4 per side at the trunnion = 16 needed = 4 kits = £40 !

Think I'll stick to inner tubes !

Maybe a combination of innertube sections with cable ties over the top to keep in place ?

 

Bob.

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I too have resorted to wide tie-wraps but I wonder has anyone tried butyl rubber self-amalgamating tape as used for electrical insulation? That can be wrapped around without any dismantling and as the name suggests amalgamates into a solid ring of material.

 

Rob

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I too have resorted to wide tie-wraps but I wonder has anyone tried butyl rubber self-amalgamating tape as used for electrical insulation? That can be wrapped around without any dismantling and as the name suggests amalgamates into a solid ring of material.

 

Rob

 

That is an interesting thought Rob. If that tape relies on a mechanical bond then there would be no adhesive for the grease to attack.

This thread reminds me I need to check my trunnion seals. They have been installed for over a year but have not been exposed to the elements yet.

 

Stan

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I too have resorted to wide tie-wraps but I wonder has anyone tried butyl rubber self-amalgamating tape as used for electrical insulation? That can be wrapped around without any dismantling and as the name suggests amalgamates into a solid ring of material.

 

Rob

Hi Rob

 

Sounds good, but where do you get it, certainly not here in Spain. Is it a Halfords line?

 

Dave

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Should be readily available even in Spain Dave - Screwfix do it (code 87717), Halfords have it (code 187719) , Its also available from RS, Farnell and Maplins. I think any decent electrical supplier or DIY store in europe should carry it but as to what they call it locally ????.

 

Rob

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I think this is the same size as TR - fits Mini rear radius arm - No idea of the quality compared to the rather poor repros sold for TR.

 

http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/Suspension/Radius%20arms%20fittings/2A7327.aspx?1908&ReturnUrl=/shop/Classic/Suspension.aspx|Back%20to%20shop

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Willie - that may not be the same stuff, that sounds like ordinary PVC adhesive tape.

 

I have ony ever seen self-amalgamating tape in black (though the interlayer which stops it sticking to itself while while reeled up can be in a variety of colours). It isn't a conventional sticky tape and has no adhesive coating. It is a natural-looking rubber material. You have to peel off the inter-layer and then it has to be stretched quite a lot as you wind it on. As the stretch relaxes the rubber binds to itself and combines. You can't un-wind it once stuck, it has to be cut off.

 

Rob

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Hi Rob,

 

The ref no is Superpro SPF2496K which is a kit of dust seals not tape, inner tube bits or any other substitute - they are the proper job.

 

Good luck,

 

Willie

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Should be readily available even in Spain Dave - Screwfix do it (code 87717), Halfords have it (code 187719) , Its also available from RS, Farnell and Maplins. I think any decent electrical supplier or DIY store in europe should carry it but as to what they call it locally ????.

 

Rob

Rob

 

You´ll be lucky! Here in Spain we don´t get those shops you mention. The times I have tried to locate Maplins or its equal as I need many radio type spares for the model railway wiring, just placed an order with Vehicle Wiring in England for some parts as still nothing here. I will have to ask my pal in Liverpool to go to Halfords or Maplins for me, now we have a ref or part number.

Thanks anyway for the leads, much oblged.

 

Dave

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I use 1/4" wide tie-wraps. You can put them on after assembly - unlike the rubber bands. Mine have been on for years. After you pull them tight, clip off the excess length and hide the clipped end behind so a concours judge can't see them.

 

$2.00 for a bag of about 2 dozen tie-wraps.

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Hi Don et al.

 

Seems like the popular solution are plastic tie wraps like you use to group small cables together with, so that is what I will do as that doesn´t need to take the suspension down to get to the inner ones.

 

Thanks All for your responses and ideas.

 

Dave

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Hi Don et al.

 

Seems like the popular solution are plastic tie wraps like you use to group small cables together with, so that is what I will do as that doesn´t need to take the suspension down to get to the inner ones.

 

Thanks All for your responses and ideas.

 

Dave

Dave,

 

Self-amalgamating tape is very common here in Spain (you may search for “cinta autovulcanizante”), see for instance:

http://www.mocap.com.es/cinta-autovulcanizante-x-treme.html

http://e-ferreteria.es/otras-cintas-adhesivas/11167-cinta-caucho-autoamalgamante-6-7x19x0-76.html

http://es.rs-online.com/web/c/adhesivos-sellantes-y-cintas/cintas/cintas-de-autoamalgamar/

 

In fact, this is what I used I renewed the bushings and the new seals in the kit lasted a couple of days, and perished by themselves, even before putting the car on its wheels.

 

Jesus

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Hi Jesus

 

Now I know what to ask for it will be much easier to get it locally.

Thanks

 

Dave

Dave,

 

You may find the tape at shops like Leroy&Merlin, BricoMart or BricoDepot. If you fail to source it, I can send one roll to you.

 

Jesús

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