hot-growler Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi, has anyone looked into using a bosch fuel pump from a scrap car set up? The pic o the James Paddock website (a UK TR6 parts supplier) looks very much like the set up on my Mercedes SLK. Would there be any issues in going down this road. The price of a new TR6 set up item seems extremely steep Is the set up peciliar to our cars or are there others out there that will work acceptably. Would be interesting for any views on the matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkerwilliams Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Hi, Unfortunately they almost all work between 6 and 9 psi. - and yes you've already guessed it the Triumph set up uses over 100 psi. Other than aging F1 cars and US dragsters there not many newer cars that get through Road Safety regulations with incendiary fuel systems running 100psi fuel lines. And I believe even the F1 cars only used an electric pump for starting then switched to a mechanical belt driven pump for the business of actually racing. but there may be another donor model out there somewhere. Classic cars in their own little ways are bottomless pits for money, just relax and learn to love it and dig deep. Have a look at the Kinsler catalogue http://www.kinsler.com/ Alan Edited June 11, 2015 by barkerwilliams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) The usual favourite one to replace with now that Bosch have rationalised there range of pumps is the one from 2.8 inj Capri or Sierra Cosworth. They will run the required pressure and deliver enough volume. New ones around £150. Stuart. Edited June 11, 2015 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjc615ukuk Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I sincerely hope there isn't a cheaper system out there. I've just paid £375 for the bosch set up! Lol. Regards Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The usual favourite one to replace with now that Bosch have rationalised there range of pumps is the one from 2.8 inj Capri or Sierra Cosworth. They will run the required pressure and deliver enough volume. New ones around £150. Stuart. Mums the word Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Mums the word Stuart Thats Ok all the suppliers want a reg number these days or computer says no! Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Sadly, purchasing a 'Bosch kit' from the average TR / PI specialist suggests a tattoo of the Richard abbreviation between eyebrow and hairline, and/or more money than sense. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheeler Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi Alec Have you any suggestions as to where to buy suitable pump and filter and avoid tattoo between eyebrow and hairline and have more sense that money! Cheers Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Hi Bill, on several occasions I've found these chaps more than useful http://www.glencoeltd.co.uk/ usual disclaimers, I'm just an occasional and thus far invariably satisfied customer ! Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjc615ukuk Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Anyone recommend a good clinic for laser removal for tatoo's? To be fair though,that price included a prv. Edited June 12, 2015 by pjc615ukuk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Hi. Bosch rationalised their pump range a few years ago the ....909 and ...910 will do the job and are/were what most of the TR people were supplying in their kits. http://www.leicestertr.co.uk/Part%20Numbers_files/pumps.pdf then all you need is a high pressure post filter and a bit of plumbing. In the day XR3i kit made suitable donors but it's as easier to pick up a new pump. Searching for the pump part numbers on eBay can also be a way of finding alternative after market pumps to the Bosch.or equivalents eg here or here for a cheaper alternative for the pump and here for the filter. You'll need some plumbing a short high pressure line to link the pump and filter and an adaptor from the filter to convert the outlet to fit the existing high pressure lines. A good hydraulic supplier such as Pirtek will knock those up for you. Edited June 12, 2015 by andymoltu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Smith Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sadly, purchasing a 'Bosch kit' from the average TR / PI specialist suggests a tattoo of the Richard abbreviation between eyebrow and hairline, and/or more money than sense. Cheers Alec Ahhh, of course, you must mean 'Rich' Alec................... Cheers Andrew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheeler Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thanks Alec and Andy. With this info. it should be possible to put together pump and filter plus connectors for less than £100 thus avoiding tattoo!!! Thanks again Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Dear All, My Bosch pump is over 30 years old and still pumping away. I expect that I am on borrowed time with it ! The info given to me came direct from Bosch Technical where one of the staff had a TR6 and this pump was fitted to his car. The part number was 0-580-254-952, I expect that this part number has been superseded by an other more modern pump but if you go to a Bosch dealer he should be able to tell you their new part number. But remember that this pump needs a 10mm (3/8") Bore petrol supply! Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Price Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sytec do a high pressure injection pump lock out is 160psi, JCC Race and Rally do it for about £75 I think, part number OTP 019, draws about 8 amps. The pump has a 15mm/5/8th inlet and a 12x1.5 ID threaded outlet, you can get adapters from thinkauto.com to connect the pump to the PRV. All I need now is a new TR6 to put it on. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bendirk Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi My Bosch 909 died due to debris (no prefilter, stupid me ) I have just fitted a QSP 580 909 "High flow competition pump" It is a lookalike of the Bosch 909 with the same connections and I hope the same specs. Up to now it is working fine. QSP advices a prefilter. Cost only € 76,00 including shipping Greetings Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk1PI Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Google Pierburg efi pump - fits old fords and Audi - good for 100 to 150 psi with flow to match - also fits Ferrari 412i buts it's an XR3i pump! I will dig out the part number ASAP - I also have a pdf showing its internals and it's very similar in operation to the original lucas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 This is an interesting bit of information regarding fuel pump failures mostly due to poor installation. http://www.partinfo.co.uk/files/Pierburg-Fuel%20Pump%20Product%20Info.pdf Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steves_TR6 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 This is an interesting bit of information regarding fuel pump failures mostly due to poor installation. http://www.partinfo.co.uk/files/Pierburg-Fuel%20Pump%20Product%20Info.pdf Stuart. Wow! Those poor little pumps have so much to contend with! I'm amazed that the pump on my car, a Bosch 996 mounted in the wheel arch in the '90s, is still going strong. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mk1PI Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Here are the part no details of an alternative to Bosch pumps - Pierburg 7.21659.72.0 http://download.ms-motor-service.com/ximages/pg_pi_0034_en_web.pdf The pump internals and pump curve is shown towards the end of this document (3T pump) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Moltu Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Dear All, My Bosch pump is over 30 years old and still pumping away. I expect that I am on borrowed time with it ! The info given to me came direct from Bosch Technical where one of the staff had a TR6 and this pump was fitted to his car. The part number was 0-580-254-952, I expect that this part number has been superseded by an other more modern pump but if you go to a Bosch dealer he should be able to tell you their new part number. But remember that this pump needs a 10mm (3/8") Bore petrol supply! Bruce The 052 maps to the 580 254 910 in the revised Bosch line up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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