grumpy2 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Harrumphhh First mot with the tr6 and its a fail on the front anti roll bar which fouls on the front wheels on full lock. The washers on the drop link just touch the rime and the bar actually scrubs the tyres, same on both sides Suggested solutions include, fitting wheel spacers, fabricating some sort of steering lock limiter, reshaping the anti roll bar Thoughts welcome but I'd like a solution that I can employ in the next day or two as that's all the time I have available. Cheers Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi Gary, check that you have the steering limiter in place on both sides Item 78 http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/steering-suspension/front-suspension/front-suspension.html Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Hi Gary, Roger beat me to it. NB you could make a larger one or one with an offset hole. Edited April 13, 2015 by Kevo_6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark69 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I have two spare ones with the offset holes if you are missing them . Pm me if you want them. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 This can happen more easily with the larger low profile tyres too. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy2 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Yes they are there but I think they have central holes, offset holes seems a great idea. Mark you have pm Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldtuckunder Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 May be a bit late but.... Take it off for the MOT There is no requirement to have a front anti roll bar fitted. Don't raise the bridge, lower the water. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy2 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks for the replies, I'm sorted thanks to Mark and his offset steering stops, easy solution. Hopefully the retest today should just be a formality Thanks again Mark, such a gent Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark69 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Glad to assist, how did you get on. Mark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy2 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Once the test station had fixed its computer the retest took 10 mins and a fresh certificate was in my grateful hands Thanks again Gary Ps, I've been a member of 3 single marque clubs, this one, Stag owners and MG Owners clubs. Both the triumph clubs have provided excellent non-mercenary support but the MG club quite the opposite. I partially put this down to the smaller numbers involved and less availability of parts. Maybe I'm daft! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim D. Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Interesting what you say about the MGOC. Had wondered about joining as I have a Midget as well as he TR.. Had not gone ahead as I never see them at the events I go to ( eg Le Mans, Spa etc) and guessed that they are not into such things. In fact given the number around I very rarely see MGs at any events. Very odd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grumpy2 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Tim, The MGOC branch that I ran for 12 years was, like most MGOC groups, not into competition events and long distance driving. Rather we did lots of shows and picnic runs. I think because there are so many MG owners ( we had 40-60 regular attenders) they are able to remain insular and not look outside their immediate circle. This is also the case with parts there's so much availability and such a large demand that nothing was ever 'free' yet most things were relatively cheap. Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J E Bell Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 On 4/13/2015 at 4:42 PM, grumpy2 said: Harrumphhh First mot with the tr6 and its a fail on the front anti roll bar which fouls on the front wheels on full lock. The washers on the drop link just touch the rime and the bar actually scrubs the tyres, same on both sides Suggested solutions include, fitting wheel spacers, fabricating some sort of steering lock limiter, reshaping the anti roll bar Thoughts welcome but I'd like a solution that I can employ in the next day or two as that's all the time I have available. Cheers Gary Just been looking for someone else with this problem. My TR6 is the same and I'm wondering if the ARB is distorted. With it sitting on the suspension and the wheels straight ahead I measure 910mm between link attachment centres. I suspect this is too much and would appreciate what that dimension should be before I make some bigger lock stops. John (CP TR6) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith1948 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 The lock stop on my 4A has the hole off centre so you can turn it to increase or decrease the setting. If you remove the lock stop bolt and look at the thick washer shaped disc (item 78 in Rogers link above) you should see the hole is off centre. Item 77 is a lock washer that holds it in the correct position when the bolt is tightened up. Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CK's TR6 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 When I rebuilt my front end, I went round and round with the steering stops. And my OEM stops were offset, by 0.005" . Many measurings with a caliper. Both were the same. And once I had marked the stop at max/min, installed the stop, adjusted the stop and there was no more fouling. Very subtle, not detectable by the naked eye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J E Bell Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 7 hours ago, keith1948 said: The lock stop on my 4A has the hole off centre so you can turn it to increase or decrease the setting. If you remove the lock stop bolt and look at the thick washer shaped disc (item 78 in Rogers link above) you should see the hole is off centre. Item 77 is a lock washer that holds it in the correct position when the bolt is tightened up. Keith Thanks Keith, the lock stops on mine don't have off centre holes. May need to make some with bigger OD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J E Bell Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, CK's TR6 said: When I rebuilt my front end, I went round and round with the steering stops. And my OEM stops were offset, by 0.005" . Many measurings with a caliper. Both were the same. And once I had marked the stop at max/min, installed the stop, adjusted the stop and there was no more fouling. Very subtle, not detectable by the naked eye. Thanks, mine don't seem to be offset and 5 thou wouldn't be enough to get clearance. Must measure someone else's ARB! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 4a on to 6 lock stops from factory arent eccentric drilled so not adjustable. Revingtons do some that are eccentric drilled but I found they werent a good fit on the trunnion. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J E Bell Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 46 minutes ago, stuart said: 4a on to 6 lock stops from factory arent eccentric drilled so not adjustable. Revingtons do some that are eccentric drilled but I found they werent a good fit on the trunnion. Stuart. Thanks Stuart. I think the ARB on my TR6 must be distorted. I'd really like to know what the distance between the holes for the drop links in the ARB should be. Mine measures 910mm. Perhaps I need a new one but don't want to go there until I know what that dimension should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 30 minutes ago, J E Bell said: Thanks Stuart. I think the ARB on my TR6 must be distorted. I'd really like to know what the distance between the holes for the drop links in the ARB should be. Mine measures 910mm. Perhaps I need a new one but don't want to go there until I know what that dimension should be. The only bar I have here as I dont have a 6 in at the moment I think is from a 4 and distance between hole centres at each end is 880mm Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 (edited) Btw, did I tell here what my friend Jochen asked ME when I asked him about the need for an anti roll bar? Edited February 5 by Z320 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J E Bell Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, stuart said: The only bar I have here as I dont have a 6 in at the moment I think is from a 4 and distance between hole centres at each end is 880mm Stuart. Thanks for checking Stuart, I'll measure a friend's 6 when I get a chance. If the 6 was also 880mm that would clear easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Z320 said: Btw, did I tell here what my friend Jochen asked ME when I asked him about the need for an anti roll bar? I'll bite,...tell me....tell me. Knowing how sensible yourself and Jochen are I'm full of curiosity. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Z320 Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Hi Mick, I guess you are thinking of my „lets do an innovation“ friend Jochem, this story is about my „calm down“ friend Jochen. I told this story here before, but I can do it again….. Me to Jochen: „What do you think about fitting an anti roll bar on our TR4As“. He: „Does your TR4A roll?“ Me: „Well….no“. He: „What was your question, please?“ Ciao Marco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 AAahhh Marco, A truthfull man with clever friends. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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