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Hi

 

I am looking to replace my (soggy,saggy and perforated) original Gearbox tunnel, there seem to be a number of different materials (plastic or fibreglass) and suppliers.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations?

 

Thanks

 

Rich

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Rich,

 

Fibreglass for sure, the plastic ones don't fit very well.

 

Racestorations two piece is the best option but at a price.

 

I have just been looking at my TR250 with its original tunnel in very good condition. The previous owner had had the foresight to line the tunnel with fibreglass back in the seventies.

 

Graeme

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Rich

 

I bought the fibreboard one from Moss and covered it with Dynamat insulation to stiffen it up and reduce heat

 

An alternative if you are worried about the cost of the fiberglass

 

Graze

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Racetorations 2-piece makes access to overdrive solenoid much easier.

I fitted one to my TR4 in 2004 - it pays to be very methodical in drilling the fixing holes in precisely the correct positions.

If the cover is wedged in position, many of the holes can be marked or even drilled from beneath the car - but don't let fibreglass dust fall into your eyes!

It took me some time, but I did the job single-handed.

The same advice on correct positioning goes for cutting out where access is required to the oil filler and speedo drive.

Ian Cornish

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This seemed to be the best thread to "bump" regarding 2-piece gearbox covers

I have the Moss motors (Clark and Clark Inc) 2 piece cover. The speedo drive access opening/hole and cover  worked out well, but the solenoid access is a dilemma as it seems to bridge the front and rear pieces. Do I just measure umpteen times, suck it up and cut?

The plan is to use the round floor jacking hole plugs. I think the GB filler plug access should be OK

Any advice would be welcome 

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Cheers,

Alf

 

GB cover solenoid access issue-lip of front section extends 25mm inside the rear section..JPG

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I thought the purpose (one of) of the split cover was to avoid the necessity to remove the dreaded H frame - is that not the case then?

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2 hours ago, Chilliman said:

I thought the purpose (one of) of the split cover was to avoid the necessity to remove the dreaded H frame - is that not the case then?

No its to avoid having to remove the front bolts against the bulkhead that are always notoriously difficult to locate.

Stuart.

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3 hours ago, Chilliman said:

I thought the purpose (one of) of the split cover was to avoid the necessity to remove the dreaded H frame - is that not the case then?

Hi John

It would be useful if the H could be left in place but as you can see from Alf's photos the joint is a long way forward of the gear stick, but even so the split tunnel is much easier to live with as so much can be accessed with just the rear section removed plus unlike the one piece cover you don't have to remove the hand brake lever 

George 

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Thanks for all the great input

I purchased the 2-piece cover, as Stuart noted, to overcome the need to remove the forward bulkhead bolts (provided of course an access opening is cut for the OD isolator switches, which I am experimenting on size a the moment).  

I will recheck the relative locations for the H, rear of front portion of the cover, and the solenoid, to see if removing the the rear portion alone will provide access to solenoid per Andrew's thought.  However I'm wondering whether access to the adjusting arm is more necessary  and that is maybe 30mm forward of the solenoid. 

Is it possible that the Clark and Clark (Moss Motors) 2-piece covers are split at different locations. The sections for this one are approx.  Front-430mm (17"), Rear-410mm (16") and the centre of gear shift hole is approx. 150mm (6") back of front of rear section.

I'll come back later with relative positions for solenoid adjustment. My further thought now is whether the circular jacking grommet is the right choice - what does the Revington cover have?

Thanks and Cheers,

Alf

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This is very helpful info, I've never had a split tunnel fitted but had always thought it was to avoid the H frame removal, - this is probably a daft question - but why isn't the joint made further back? - Surely that would enable even a complete engine gearbox removal with the front of the tunnel & H frame still attached, or am I missing something?

 

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Coming back with more measurements.  The rear most bolt hole of the H foot essentially lines up with the centre of the solenoid barrel, in which case you could not remove the rear section only without removing the H bracket:unsure:.  It also appears as though you need to remove the H in order to take off any cover for the solenoid.

So maybe when all is said and doneto acces any access cover the carpet would to be easily removable and then if it solenoid adjusting the H frame as well - this leads me tto think that a square plate as opposed to rubber floor grommet is best - thoughts and suggestion most welcome

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John, based on this info, I'm not sure how feasible having the joint further back would as the next stop would be rear of the gearshift opening

Cheers,

Alf

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I would not install to much  inspection covers, especially the top one. It will weaken the already not too stiff tunnel and increase risk of leakage.

 If you pay close attention to the switches (also check resistance), and install a new hardness with proper gripping connectors, the harness fitted so it cannot rub, sag, then drive for a couple of weeks to build confidence with the cover loosely fitted, you can then fit it more permanent.

I also fitted my carpets such that they will not get damaged if I remove my 2-piece tunnel.

I made 2 covers, one for the angle drive and one for the bulge of the starter-motor, which was contacting the tunnel. Used 1 mm aluminium for these.

Waldi

 

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The positioning of the overdrive solenoid and the operating lever is - non moveable, 

Also the limited access to either of these with the H in position and the rear most section of the 2 piece gearbox cover which would need removing which would also need the H removing anyway ?,  surely means the split in the cover has to go the other way - forwards.

Why not buy a single piece cover and split the cover about 3" forward of the position where the 2 piece tunnel is split, then at least access to the overdrive unit itself, and also the solenoid and operating arm can be accessed by just biting the bullet and removing the rear half of the cover and the H , sometimes can be a bit messy but I reckon 70% better than a total gearbox cover removal. This plus a few plug covers for the other necessary service points should give the best result, that's what I'm going to try.

Mick Richards 

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Thanks all,

Waldi, regarding the number of openings, the three I have in mind, namely for the speedo, solenoid and GB filler plug appear to be commonplace - Revington seem to add add one more at the rear for what I assume is the driveshaft U/J?  This plastic version is about 3mm thick so quite sturdy

Thanks Mick,  but I have to work with what I have -  If this one had been split 40mm further forward the solenoid would work out fine but the opening for the speedo drive would be compromised. Probably the ideal split, if you doing one yourself,  would not be radially symmetric, but rather diagonally across - it would start just forward of solenoid operating arm and finish where this one does i.e. behind the speedo drive. 

Cheers,

Alf

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29 minutes ago, AlanG said:

Don't forget access hole for upper starter motor bolt.

Alan.

Even more applicable for Hi-Torque ones.

Stuart.

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