Richard71 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Hi All, I intend to fit 196/65 tyres on 15"x 6" wheels. My suspension is slightly lowered for fast road use and before I go buy the tyres can anyone with a similar set-up tell me if I'll have sufficient clearance between the tyre & wheel arch. I don't wish to open up the great tyre debate again, I've searched the archive and can't seem to find anything conclusive. Regards, Richard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) I had that setup on my 6. IIRC I needed thin spacers at the rear so as to clear the tescopic conversion brackets. Otherwise no problem. That was with Revolution wheels. Yours might have a different offset. Edited August 23, 2014 by peejay4A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard71 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Thanks PeeJay, those are the tyres i'll be going for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Richard, I had 195/65 x 15 Yokohama A539 tyres on 5.5" Minilites with no clearance issues, even with telescopic dampers on the rear. Personally I prefer the 185/65 x 15 that I have now fitted. Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saffrontr Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Richard, Clearance is all about the backspace on your alloys. I have 195/65 on some ARE 6" wheels which have 4" backspace and need 6mm spacers on the front to stop fouling on the front top upper wishbones on full lock, rears no problem at all. Similar issues with some 185/70 that I have on Cosmic 6" wheels with the same backspace. Standard steel wheels with a 3.75" backspace have no requirement for spacers. cheers Derek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel Triumph Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Richard, I have exactly the setup you're proposing on my 6, with Revolutions. Also have telescopic rear shocks. All it needed was 6mm spacers on the front, to clear wishbones on full lock. A note of caution... with the spacers I also needed to fit longer wheel studs at the front (available from Moss). This wheel and tyre combination has worked fine on my car for 10 years. Nigel Edited August 24, 2014 by Nigel Triumph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 That's weird isn't it. I had no clearance problems at the front and only needed the thinnest of spacers at the rear. So many variables. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) I have Revos too, made in England version, believe they are now made in Spain and are different. 195 x 65 tyres. Revington set up front and back, no spacers were needed on mine. So as Pete says many variables. Cheers Guy You may find that they touch on the top wishbones, if so its likely to be the nut on the top , where they go through the ball joint, turn both around. Edited August 24, 2014 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 4 spoke 6" Split Revolutions on mine,No Fouling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Denis Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 You get plenty of clearance with 165's, and my car has all the grip the chassis can handle! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) You get plenty of clearance with 165's, and my car has all the grip the chassis can handle!Thats Great Denis, Richard wants to fit 195s.I have had 195 s for twenty plus years on my motor, love it. All depends how you drive it I suppose. Cheers Guy Edited August 24, 2014 by Jersey Royal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 165s, those remind me of the '70s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_H-LY4Jb2M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Thats Great Denis, Richard wants to fit 195s. I have had 195 s for twenty plus years on my motor, love it. All depends how you drive it I suppose. Cheers Guy Or how you want it to look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clarkey Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have also got the same tyres, Now when i bought the car it had the standard tyres fitted, I had no problems with rubbing. I do have spacers on the front but not on the back, but i think i need to fit them on the rear as i have found that the tyres have been rubbing on the inner wheel arch after the run to Le Mans, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have also got the same tyres, Now when i bought the car it had the standard tyres fitted, I had no problems with rubbing. I do have spacers on the front but not on the back, but i think i need to fit them on the rear as i have found that the tyres have been rubbing on the inner wheel arch after the run to Le Mans, What Wheels are you using Martin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clarkey Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hi Niall I am using Minilite replicas 15x 5.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hi Niall I am using Minilite replicas 15x 5.5 Is this anything to do with your attempt at suspension modifications? Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hi Niall I am using Minilite replicas 15x 5.5 That would make the Inset/Offset wrong,No Way should they foul the Arches and should be no need for Spacers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted August 27, 2014 Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 That would make the Inset/Offset wrong,No Way should they foul the Arches and should be no need for Spacers. Unless they are 5.5 j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Richard, Clearance is all about the backspace on your alloys. I have 195/65 on some ARE 6" wheels which have 4" backspace and need 6mm spacers on the front to stop fouling on the front top upper wishbones on full lock, rears no problem at all. Similar issues with some 185/70 that I have on Cosmic 6" wheels with the same backspace. Standard steel wheels with a 3.75" backspace have no requirement for spacers. cheers Derek Does anyone know the backspace on Rimmers' or Moss' bolt-on alloys? Are they 3.75" ?? The 6 has lowered 4 -1/2" ground clearance, very stiff springs, and 205s x65s on 5.5J original steel wheels with no clearance issues. If I can find 5.5J alloys with the same backspace as Derek quotes I am hoping that 195 x 65s will also fit without spacers. Or am I wrong? - puzzling that suppliers dont quote back space. Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
15eren Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Hi Peter I have Rimmers bolt-on alloys (Minilite replicas 6Jx15). Backspace is 10 cm or about 3.94". Tyres are Michelin 205/65 x15. No problems front or back and no spacers needed. Tage Edited July 4, 2015 by 15eren Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcsun Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hi Peter All alloy wheels will have an ET rating, I think TR6 are either ET8 or ET15. ET translated into English means the distance in mm that the mounting face of the wheel is offset from centre line of the wheel Example If you have 6J wheels which are 6 inches wide the centre point is at 3 inches, therefore an ET15 wheel will have 3 inches + 15mm from the back of the wheel to the centre mounting plate. So 3 inches is about 76mm +15 = 91mm total offset Hope that makes sense KC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graze Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 You can use ths site to check the offset as KC describes it http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator Graze Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Cobbold Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Many thanks Tage, KC and Graze. Very helpful. I will now email Rimmers and ask for the ET spec on their current wheels, in the hope they are still the same as Tage's Not sure why the spec is not on their website, maybe so as not to frighten off customers... Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graeme Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Peter, You could always have real minilites. There website shows the offset and ET spec. http://minilite.co.uk/index.htm Cheers Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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