Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) I went for a nice drive Sunday ending at Christchurch Quay Classic Car show, but on the way back near home I started having trouble getting into 2nd from 3rd. 1st to 2nd no problem. Occasionally 2nd to 3rd is a little difficult. If I double de clutch with a blip of throttle it seems to go in OK. Overdrive works smooth and is unchanged. This is my first couple of drives since all my problems after IWE last year and replacing the head gasket and converting the head to unleaded. I get the car running really well and smooth and now this, that’s TRing I suppose. I think I will bleed the clutch first and take it from there, I did notice the rubber donut around the gearstick looked as though it wasn’t in right, could it be that? What do you guys think? Also looks as if I have a prblem spelling prblelem Edited June 30, 2014 by Kevo_6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 My 6 box had the same problem, weakening synchro on 3 to 2 down changes. I stuck it for a year or so before refurbishing the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi Pete Thanks for the info, not what I wanted to hear but deep down new that maybe a box refurb was on it's way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Austin Branson Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi, Kevo, if you suspect the rubber gear lever gaiter combination, try running without them. It will be rather noisy. I had trouble a while ago with a new rubber gaiter, causing difficulty getting into 2nd. It's fine now. Let us know how you get on. Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Hi, Kevo, if you suspect the rubber gear lever gaiter combination, try running without them. It will be rather noisy. I had trouble a while ago with a new rubber gaiter, causing difficulty getting into 2nd. It's fine now. Let us know how you get on. Austin + 1 common problem as is the gearbox cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Thanks Austin & Neil I will give that a go tomorrow and let you know how I get on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Enough oil in the gearbox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Double de-clutching helps with the baulking gaiter problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Enough oil in the gearbox?Hi Simon, I topped up last summer and only done about 500 miles since without any real leakage but I will check.Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Double de-clutching helps with the baulking gaiter problem? Hi Pete, are you also saying it could be the rubber? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Sorry Kevo, I was being obtuse. If double de-clutching allows smooth down changes I don't see how it could be the gaiter problem. I guess it's worth a try though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 That's OK Pete, that's what I thought you ment but just checking, as you say it's worth a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Last night I went to remove the gear knob and rubbers, expecting to undo a nut underneath the knob and there wasnt one, it turns out that it is a push on knob (tear drop type). Do you think that I have different gear stick or do you think that the PO has had the box changed at some time (I know he had some work done on the overdrive at some point) and what box is it likely to be from? I will test drive it tonight with rubbers removed as the existing ones were all over the place i.e. the bottom rubber was coming over the top of the top rubber which is split in a few places. Edited July 2, 2014 by Kevo_6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 We went for a 60 mile drive this evening with the gear lever rubbers removed and it's made no difference, a real bu$$er to get into 2 from 3 double declutching, occasionally a slight crunch from 2 to 3 & 3 to 4 but the weirdest thing is a mile from home I started to get 3 to 2 relatively easy without double declutching and other gears OK. There is a fair bit of whineing but it's been there since I've had the car. (Nearly 3 years). What's your thoughts please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 What oil have you got in the gearbox? Is there any in there? If you're on 20/50 or 30 grade it might be worth trying 80 or 90 gear oil but it's probably looking like a box overhaul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hi Pete Local Triumph specialist topped up last year but not sure what they put in, l think as you suggest I will see how much 90 I can get in & hopefully it will get me through the summer and get it overhauled in the winter. Funny the selection is intermittent but maybe my gear changes are slowing down to compensate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think for the price of a couple of packs of 90 I'd drain it and refill. Then you'll know what's in there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Good point Pete, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 If your going to use 90 make sure its not GL5 spec. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Will do Stuart, Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hi I have drained the oil out of the gearbox and found a needle roller, a couple of bits of small metal that resemble a needle roller bearing casing, so I guess that means a gearbox rebuild. I also drained the overdrive and there was nothing in there so I guess that's good news. Will I cause more damage and expense if I carry on driving? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 I wouldn't risk damaging the gearbox casing Kevo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonjrwinter Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Do NOT drive it any more. If you're lucky, bits of the needle roller won't have made it into your overdrive, if you're unlucky......... Get it rebuilt and upgrade the layshaft Refilling and driving will increase the chances of washing bits into the O/D. Simon Edited July 6, 2014 by simonjrwinter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 OK thanks Pete, it makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevo_6 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 OK, cheers Simon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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