angelfj Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) Someone asked me about these recently. I scoured my collection of manuals, books, etc It appears that Triumph did not issue a drawing. Could this be? Edited July 7, 2012 by angelfj Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Louis Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 That's what I have in my 3a... I wish mine was in that condition.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Thats pretty much correct but a bit too light in the blue background, I always thought the originals had a much darker blue. You will find with it stuck on at that height a lot of it will be obscured by the mounting strap. I think it ought to be higher. Stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley James Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I bought a new one and the pain dissolved thanks to the brake fluid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Eastwood used to do a black brake fluid proof paint but it seems you can now only get it in Grey. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The Eastwood paint is an epoxy base, and pretty resistant to Dot 3 but much less so to Dot 4 - and that goes for most epoxy based coatings and two-pack paints. Por 15 is more resistant to glycol-based brake fluids than most surface coatings. Some of the aviation and marine specialist enamel paints such as Imron are fairly well resistant to brake fluid, but seriously lethal products unless you're prepared to follow the H&S instructions to the letter - they can and do kill people, slowly and painfully. There's not much that glycol-based fluids won't dissolve after lengthy exposure, Dot 4 being more rapid in this respect than Dot 3, and the newer Dot 4+ products more effective again. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Imron is probably about the most resistive but you need something like a space suit to spray it with. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angelfj Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Apologies my friends. My original query was less than clear. What I am actually looking for is a Triumph assembly drawing of the reservoir. I have never seen one in any documentation. Were these "cans" used in other British cars? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hi Frank, yes, the separate reservoir, or "can" as you put it, was a not uncommon fitment on Girling equipped cars of the 1950s, in contrast to Lockheed systems which more often utilised an integral reservoir. Presumably Standard Triumph did not see the need to illustrate a proprietary 'off the shelf' component which would be familiar to the average parts man or mechanic alike. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sidescreen Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Certainly no drawing, but maybe still usefull..? Regards - Raymond Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrianC Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I haven't got a drawing but somewhere I have a complete unit in pieces. Removed from my TR3A and stripped many years ago but a new one was fitted when my car was rebuilt. If it would help, I can probably dig it out and take a few photos of the bits, including internals, during the week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Also fitted to Big Healeys. Basic construction is the can itself with a small tube reservoir inside for the clutch section. The connections are two tube nuts through the base with a nut and rubber washer on the inside. One of which holds the small clutch section down. The top cap should have a rubber seal around the inside edge and in the case of original ones a diaphragm to allow air in but supposedly not let fluid out. I notice the new repros have a large diaphragm seal under the cap now so hopefully have improved sealing but time will tell. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rien Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hello, I have a reservoir that have the same part number as the steel one 114530 but this are from plastic! I cannot find out or this are a original option for the latest TR3, what do you think? Cheers, Rien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angelfj Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Thanks gents Your the best! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hello, I have a reservoir that have the same part number as the steel one 114530 but this are from plastic! I cannot find out or this are a original option for the latest TR3, what do you think? Cheers, Rien Rien is that a double reservoir. brake and clutch feed pipes on the base. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rien Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Rien is that a double reservoir. brake and clutch feed pipes on the base. Stuart. Hi Stuart, Yes with a internal pipe for feed the clutch masterRien. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 In a Leyland box its too late for TR3 so maybe saloon perhaps. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rien Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 In a Leyland box its too late for TR3 so maybe saloon perhaps. Stuart. Maybe supersaded from steel to this later? I now no other triumph car with a combinated clutch/brake reservoir, maybe Land Rover.Rien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The metal canisters had all but disappeared by the the mid-70s, Rien's photo shows the plastic substitute that replaced the old metal cans, as a 'one size fits all' . . . . it was many years before repro metal canisters were remanufactured. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ashley James Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The Austin Healey 3000 up to MKIIA or BJ7 used two versions, one that was a single reservoir and one with a the tube up the middle for the clutch master cylinder and the same as my TR3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) The metal can got replaced by a plastic one - can not say when, but I only ever saw 114530 as a plastic item from the factory or Girling from 1980 on. I still have NOS of both items. The plastic one came as a kit with a clamp and rubber hose for the side outlet. - It also tends not to leak like the metal one. The Girling parts book G400 I believe has a sketch of the metal reservoir - I'll check next time I am in the office. The item went plastic, I guess, as the BeNeLux countries demanded the ability to see the content of the reservoir during the 60's and so the sense prevailed. Oddly enough Tri 200/2.5 right up to end, used a small metal can to supply the clutch system, but the brake was a clear plastic thing like TR5/6 Cheers Peter W Edited July 9, 2012 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Menno van Rij Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) The item went plastic, I guess, as the BeNeLux countries demanded the ability to see the content of the reservoir during the 60's and so the sense prevailed. Totally correct. TRs overhere can keep their metal reservoir since it was originally installed like that and therefore accepted by the authorities. (There's a 'pro classics' attitude within the government). If you want to update your brake system like the one below, you have to change to plasic reservoirs. Racetorations sells these kits, I think. Menno Edited July 9, 2012 by Menno van Rij Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Someone asked me about these recently. I scoured my collection of manuals, books, etc It appears that Triumph did not issue a drawing. Could this be? Attached is drawing from Girling G200 parts list as a pdf. I'll get the hang of this technology eventually. Cheers Peter W PS Drove 140 miles yesterday in the TR with aeroscreens, just call me lobster face! The sound of continuous pinking I could hear was in fact the slider of the tonneau zip rattling next to me. Edited July 23, 2012 by BlueTR3A-5EKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 ..... The connections are two tube nuts through the base with a nut and rubber washer on the inside. ..... Stuart. Hi Stuart, you beat me to it about the Big Healeys - I had a BJ8 and the master cylinder reservoir was the same as the one on my TR3a. However, my main point is your mention of a nut and rubber washer on the inside. I can't remember what the BJ8 had but the TR3a one has aluminium washers at the base on the inside. I gently heated these to anneal them and then re-used them. No leaks so far. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Ian if you look at Pete W`s PDF above you will see the rubber washer noted between the clutch section and the body and I have also had them with a rubber washer on both (plus the ally one naturally.) Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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