Malocomotion Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 hello all ! do you know these kind of fog/spot lamp ? they were offered as extras by Dové. I never see it on another car. cheers Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3739 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hi Patrick Have to say new one on me. Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrianC Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) I've emailed Jon Marshall (TR4/4A registrar and Dove owner) to see if he can throw any light on these. Edited January 30, 2012 by BrianC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrianC Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Just received this reply from Jon: Just got back from visit to France. Still haven’t got my connection to the Forum sorted. Could you do me a favour please. Could you please post (in your own name) the following: If anyone has a pair of these for sale, I know that Jon Marshall (TR4/4A Registrar) is looking some for his Dove . So I guess there's not much information about them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Original extras they might be but for me they don't do much to enhance the face of the car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Hi all sure, they are original ! and mysterious, so interesting. they are not Lucas or Marchal, perhaps Hella, because i don't know the old models of this make. Still looking cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I think you'll find these are Hella units, Optilux Dual or some such description. Twin bulb foglamps, one pointing forward and one angled to the verge each side, so they are a matched pair, handed if you prefer. Early 1960s innovation that gets reinvented periodically. Interesting idea, blitz enough light forward in fog or snow to bounce back and blind the driver, whilst at the same time blinding the oncoming driver also. Possibly invented in the DDR as a means of reducing the numbers of bloated capitalists with more money than sense, head on collisions tend to have a high fatality rate. On a more serious note, this sort of lamp originated as an endurance racing fitment for improving vision in rain and mist, then as a rally car fitment. Cheers, Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Thanks Alec, I'm not in accessories but these lamps seems so mysterious ! Cheers ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clanthomas Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Hi All Thinking about a little road safety and given the erratic behavour of todays traffic and a near miss, Im sure they dont see me at junctions sometimes! I have fitted LED Day Time Running Lights. They are made by Ring and they were from Halfords. I wired them up so they come on automaticly, I dont think they look to much out of place. Regards Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cliveinfrance Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 You must be driving around in a very strange area.........How could anyone miss seeing such a nice looking car???? regards Clive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ogriboy Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hi Patrick, These lamps as shown on this Autocar test model are yellow and white lenses handed to suit. Heavy lamps with chrome casing and ribbed fascia. I have these for my Dove and interestingly the front bumper brackets have a down stand welded plate to which they nicely connect. They are not Hella, lucas or Marchal. As you may know they were fitted to the Le Mans cars due to the nose rising when doing 130mph down the Mulsanne No myth intended ...except for the speed bit ..YutubeLe Mans 2008. I have not fitted them as as you say they are a bit rare but was considering it for this year. Regards. G.S. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 very interesting ! thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Is this the elusive combined spot and fog lamp that was fitted to the TR4 Dove…..???? Each of the glass lenses has the name Rival cast into them. Not a small lamp by any means, plus it weighs in at over 1kg. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North London Mike Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I have fitted LED Day Time Running Lights. They are made by Ring and they were from Halfords. I wired them up so they come on automaticly, I dont think they look to much out of place. Regards Mark _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hi Mark Neat idea, could solve your problem as dark colours tend to merge into background wash, where as lighter colours (LNK is Powder Blue) tend to stand out. People 'playing' in modern cars with Sat navs, mobile phones, i-pods and MP3s barely have time to look at the road Mercedes used to publish a colour safety index and white was always the safest colour (in their scoring) with Dark Green, Dark Blue and Black scoring badly Me, I just turn on the headlamps if I feel the light is fading, and if the guy still keeps coming, everything thing else, annnnd............."they're back in the room" Edited January 18, 2013 by North London Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Richard, that certainly looks like the right unit to me - if not, it's close enough ! Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-HOOD-HANDLE-FOG-LAMP-HEB-SPLIT-OVAL-BUG-BEETLE-KAFER-RIVAL-DOUBLE-FOGLIGHT-/370733602695#vi-content Fill yer boots! All you need to do is find another matching one and you're nearly original.......... Edited January 21, 2013 by Paul Harvey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hello all, Richard, what is the make and where is it made ? the us one look ok but what a price ! regards Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RAHTR4 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hi Patrick, The front part of the lamp which holds the two lenses is stamped on top "Made in England" "Rival" Each of the lenses has the name Rival cast into them. Regards, Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Thank you Richard, never heard about this make before. It seems it still exist but not making spotlights for cars. Warm regards Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel Lay Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1369008 There you go, complete with original box (top of the page). Nigel Edited February 2, 2013 by Nigel Lay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hedleylemarr Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) ive got just the one, found it in a box of mixed old car bits, their made by a company called rival (well thats the name on the glass lense) one lense is clear the other is yellow. Steve Edited January 10, 2021 by hedleylemarr photo added Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony_C Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Hello Steve and welcome...... What else have you got in this box of old car bits? .... Appears it may be a proper treasure trove, a working works twin cam ‘Sabrina’ engine would drop into my engine bay without too much bodging along the way? Cheers, (in hope not expectation) Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hedleylemarr Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 hiya Tony , i do have a few other mixed bits, i.e set of hub caps from a daimler ds 420, cortina 1966 track rod end (boxed) vauxhall chevette parts, and some 60's/ 70's dials, have found a riley grill chrome surround, ill have to have a proper rummage on.my day off on monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aldpilot Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hi Steve i have been looking for one of those lamps for a while. Is it for sale? I have sent you a pm. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel C Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Talk to Wayne Scott, his dad has a pair on his Dove and (way back in the depths of my mind) I think there's a cross over with Porsche on the lens' ...but don't quote me on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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