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Overhere, in Holland, Hans Kooij (a wellknown TR restorer) has one of these. Like me, Raymond knows this car too. In real life, the colour is very 'in your face'... but, it's also a very original colour! If you really want something special, this geranium is the perfect colour of your choice!

 

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Edwin,   As soon as I met Hans I will ask him !   Regards - Raymond

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There is usually a gaggle of geranium cars at international from Belgium where it seems to be a popular colour.

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Overhere, in Holland, Hans Kooij (a wellknown TR restorer) has one of these. Like me, Raymond knows this car too. In real life, the colour is very 'in your face'... but, it's also a very original colour! If you really want something special, this geranium is the perfect colour of your choice!

 

Menno

 

 

 

Perhaps à nice trivia:

 

Hans has a special name for this color: nipple pink.

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The story I heard was that when the TR2 was to begin production in a big way, Sir John Black was too busy to deal with the colours for this new car. So he told his wife to handle it. Since she was having the interior of the family mansion re-painted, she decided to ask the chief painter for his opinions. The first he chose was Geranium, then he followed with all the others colours he preferred.

 

I believe he was a hairdresser before becoming a painter.

 

Now you know the rest of the story.

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Perhaps à nice trivia:

 

Hans has a special name for this color: nipple pink.

 

Nipple pink is different to Geranium and much lighter colour. There used to be one in the Register that has been all over the world. Reg No SEL 745 I have pictures of it but not on digital. Special order colours weren't a problem in those days ;)

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Nipple pink is different to Geranium and much lighter colour.

There used to be one in the Register that has been all over the world.

 

 

That shade would cause confusion in this part of the world!

 

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Nipple pink is different to Geranium and much lighter colour. There used to be one in the Register that has been all over the world. Reg No SEL 745 I have pictures of it but not on digital. Special order colours weren't a problem in those days ;)

Stuart.

 

 

 

Hmm interesting, i don't think Hans knows...

 

@Raymond; i think you 'll meet Hans sooner than i, would you care to ask him?

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No, I first heard " Nipple Pink " in the early 1990's when I interviewed Ken Richardson for the first time...he told me that this description was current among Triumph employees right back to 1953/4 when the colour came out...I think I told this story in one of my books......I have also related the "Lady Black and the colours story" a few times...I was told that a (female) interior design consultant known to her first suggested these colours.

As to SEL 745, this is the car owned for many years by Steve Wolf...maybe he still owns it? However, the Salmon pink colour on it was applied by him...the car was Signal red when I owned it 1973/4/5 and was not a special colour order- I seem to recall it's build colour was Pearl White...a photo of it being used at my first wedding appeared in TRaction in one of my "TReminiscences" articles around no. 100.

 

Also, there were 3, not 2, "SP" full Jabbeke replica TR2's...maybe more. TS19, TS 612 and TS 767...the latter 2 went new to New Zealand, and I heard a few years ago that one at least still existed there...can anyone confirm? Bill P.

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Bill, yes one SP car survives. TS612-0 is alive and well in New Zealand. It is Signal Red and still road registered. However, TS767 most likely hasn't survived, but its fate is unknown.

 

New Zealand's first TR2, TS65, is now in Australia, but there is no record of TS767 coming over here.

 

Oddly TS612-0 doesn't seem to have an SP commission number as per TS 19 (SP) LO, which also appears to be lost.

 

Regards,

 

Viv.

 

 

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I think Bill's version of the nipple pink appellation and Lady Black's designer are the accurate versions, and also that the lady designer involved was the regular contributor on such topics to Country Life magazine.

 

If I recall correctly, SEL was the car that Wolfie employed in his effort to reduce the deer population of the New Forest, and came off worst ?

 

Cheers,

 

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Thanks for that, Alec...I don't know if Steve Wolf hit animals in the New Forest with SEL, but once, when I owned SEL, a bloke from Bournemouth (not Steve) whose name I can't recall came up to me at a car show and said he had owned SEL in the mid 60's and that he'd hit a large NF pony at 2am in the forest one night and that the car came off worst....(bet pony wasn't too bright either....) SEL was written off but he bought back salvage and it lived again, so clearly a much abused motor even before I got it....Bill

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Hello

I remember Mike Duggans car well, here in Kent.

It was sold just one or two years after his passing and I'm sure went to the Continent, Germany if I remember right??

Can any one confirm.

cheers

Colin

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I finished last year a rebuild of a 1955 TR2 and although a short door car I wanted to have a Speed Trim. It became the "Jabekke Special".


The high cost and lack of skill in South Africa made me decide not to make it from aluminum but instead use a glassfiber specialist for the Tonneau cover and the wheel squabs.


To mount the tonneau I remove the lift-the-dot pegs on the scuttle and doors and use SS wood screws, currently with halfround head, but when I find the time I will change them to countersunk and use cupwashers as on TR4-TR6 dashboards.


Does anybody have a idea how many replicas are around?


Cheers


Heinz Koncki, George, South Africa



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I finished last year a rebuild of a 1955 TR2 and although a short door car I wanted to have a Speed Trim. It became the "Jabekke Special".

The high cost and lack of skill in South Africa made me decide not to make it from aluminum but instead use a glassfiber specialist for the Tonneau cover and the wheel squabs.

To mount the tonneau I remove the lift-the-dot pegs on the scuttle and doors and use SS wood screws, currently with halfround head, but when I find the time I will change them to countersunk and use cupwashers as on TR4-TR6 dashboards.

Does anybody have a idea how many replicas are around?

Cheers

Heinz Koncki, George, South Africa

 

Heinz, a warm welcome and thanks for the great photo. Nice job with the (fibreglass) tonneau.

 

Stan.

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Heinz, I seem to recall Bill P once posted that Ken Mumford built the replica Macau GP TR2 now in the museum there. So Ken's familiar with metal covers.

 

Until your post, the Macau replica is the only other current car I know of with a cockpit cover. Don't know if MVC575 still has its original Jabbeke cover as access is unavailable.

 

The world's only known remaining Speed Model is currently being rebuilt in NZ. Remarkably, the remains survived after being written off in 1971, and it even has the original block. Even more remarkable is the original sales invoice has surfaced.

 

Regards,

 

Viv

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Hi to all of you! Thank you for the interest (and compliments) in the Jabekke Special. Sorry, I did not respond earlier. Have to watch the forum frequently!


I´m too new and not really familiar in uploading, but I invite you to contact me by email: h.koncki@gmail.com for more pictures and stories of the 1 year body-off rebuild and how we casted the tonneau cover and the wheel spats directly on the car.



Pitty, I learned too late of the 60th anniversary event end of May in Belgium. I´m in Europe in June but was unable to change my arrangements to be there in time.


Maybe in 10 years or 15? if I´m still around and if I find a sponsor to ship the car I promise to bring it.



Triumphant greetings



Heinz


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I think Ken Munford did build two "Jabbeke" replicas...one I'm sure was commisioned by the Macau museum once they'd failed to find the original winning car...the car on show is I'm sure a replica...maybe someone should ask Ken? One of them was black I seem to recall...I took a snap of it in the early nineties ....will try to find it...Bill P

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