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    1935 Singer LeMans, 1964 Triumph TR4, 1968 Rover P6 V8, 1972 Jensen Interceptor, Jaguar E type, 1990 TWR Jaguar XJ-RS, 1991 TWR Jaguar XJ-RS, 1999 BMW Z3M Coupe,

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  1. Ukmax

    My old Pirelli tyres stamped 367F

    The Pirelli Cinturatos were certainly very much all the rage in the 60's probably more by virtue of astute marketing than actual performance, but having said that, I had them on a couple of glass fibre "specials" (one TR3 based and one E93a Ford Popular based) and they performed remarkably well in wet and dry. However, I seem to recall that there was some doubt about their performance on heavier cars. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you both. It seems that it is best to treat the manual as a guide to procedures rather than a "bible" because drawing E627 (which is marked on the other side as as being TR4A) is clearly not correct, unless only SOME TR4As had the fulcrum this way around. Andrew, I should have noted your footer "40 years of TR ownership and still learning!" !!! I've only had mine a few months. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Rich, I'm even more confused now! Image 3204.jpg is from the factory WS manual (2nd edition 1965) shows the fulcrum orientated with the concave side facing inboard which is the opposite way to mine. Image 3205.jpg is a drawing marked as TR4A in the same manual shows the orientation as being the same as mine. This seems to indicate the opposite of what you have just stated in your post. I'm not doubting you but since the fiasco over the distance piece above the spring, which is clearly shown as being present in this drawing, with no qualification as to the spring length, I'm beginning to have doubts about the accuracy of this manual. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Rich, Because the car is up on the ramp with it's wheels on until next week, I didn't think I would be able to see the fulcrum pins but it occurred to me that I could photograph them with my phone. Both fulcrums are fitted the same way around as shown in the attached photo (Yes, I have new bushes to replace those!) I understood you to say that the fulcrum pins should be fitted the opposite way around to the "apparently obvious" way, i.e.with the concave side facing away from the shocker, therefore it appears that mine are the wrong way around. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Hello Rich, Good to meet and chat with you on Sunday. I haven't had time to check the fulcrum pins yet and I won't get back on to the job until next week but I'll let you know. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Stoneleigh 'car 1" was 365 and "car 2" was 370mm, mine is also 365mm There are of course be potential errors caused by having to "best guess" both the exact wheel hub centre, the exact position (vertically to wheel centre) on the wheel arch from which the measurement is taken and the the exact profile of the wheel arch, so it is by no means a scientific test and errors could be <> 5mm or maybe more!. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    When visiting Stoneleigh at the weekend, I took the opportunity to measure the height to wheel arch on a couple of TR4s and was pleased to find that the measurement was the same (within a few mm) as that on my car. I am now happy with the ride height but I still have to square the body up properly on the the chassis to complete this part of the job. Thanks to all who gave such helpful advice. David PS. Andrew, I'm sorry but I missed your posts until I had posted this reply. Thank you for the confirmation re the vertical links, the height measurement and of course the photos
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thanks Richard, I've found several things not quite right (in some cases, very wrong!) with this car, so anything is possible! How would I tell the difference between the vertical links for TR4 and 4A. I've now got the car back on it's wheels and am pleased to find that the ride height has increased considerably but I still don't know what it should be using standard tyres on wires when measured from floor to wheel arch lip when measured through the centre line of the wheel. Do you, or anyone else know please? David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you Bob, no I didn't know that but I was beginning to suspect it thus the question in my last post. I hadn't looked at the Rimmer Brothers site and had I done so, I would have realised because my springs are the longer ones, so having just finished making the distance pieces, I now don't need them! Now I've got the lower wishbones the correct way around, I'll reassemble the suspension and see if that corrects the problem. David, PS, BTW, love your Hillman, same era as my Singer
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you for your advice Tim but I'm now a little confused when it comes to spacers. I have to confess that I have had no experience with rebuilding Triumph vehicles, although I have restored and rebuilt many classic cars. As you will see from my previous posts the car was sitting too low at the front and the previous owner (who ostensibly restored the car) had not only refitted the wishbones upside down but he had not fitted the distance pieces above the springs (as shown in the workshop manual and various parts diagrams provided by online spares suppliers), therefore I am not fitting additional spacers but merely making and fitting the distance pieces that should be there ex works - or should they? The existing springs are within factory spec. Regards, David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you Ian (blushes) My close friend who is a professional vehicle body/chassis repairer had his forearm broken when a road spring broke loose from a compressor. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you Malbaby. Your reply implies that there are different sized distant pieces but I can only find one listed so maybe there are after-market versions available. The existing springs are within specification so I will use them. By scaling the photographs in the Manual, I estimate the spacers to be something over 1.125 inches but I cannot really tell how much of the distance piece is hidden up inside the abutment bracket. I'm not sure how much higher the body will be when the suspension is reassembled with the lower wishbones the correct way round but I think I will make the distance pieces 1.25 inches and try that, if it's too high, I will remove them and turn them down accordingly, It's easier to take material off! David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thank you Mick for your much valued input. When I measured up for the spring compressor I realised the reason for the articulation and machined a hemispherical thrust washer which probably performs like the modified track rod end you mentioned, if I understood you correctly. I understand entirely what you say about a box full of "specialist tools" and I also do a similar thing to you, for example, I use a couple of different hydraulic pullers as the main "engine" and have made various attachments for an assortment of different pulling or pushing jobs. The only real "made-for-the-job" tools I have are for work on performance Jaguars, which has been the bulk of my work to date. I've now removed one of the springs but there was no loose distance piece on top of the spring, the rubber collar simply engaged on the shaped part which is welded into the spring abutment bracket (see image). Does anyone have the dimensions of the distance pieces please. David
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    Front suspension and track width

    Thanks again to all who contributed. My investigations into the suspension have revealed couple of other worrying things but I will ask advice on these in separate posts where I am sure I will receive the same excellent quality information. I am just about to make a spring compressor.I know I could use "allthread" but I haven't cut threads on my lathe for a few years now so the practice will be welcome! I notice that the spring compressor shown in the manual has an articulation at the top end and whilst I can replicate that, I can't immediately see it's purpose, does anyone know it's purpose? Is it a universal compressor for various other Triumph models where the articulation is required? David
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    Front suspension and track width

    You're spot on Drewmotty, the bottom wishbones are indeed upside down! Thank you. I'll correct the error tomorrow. To answer other questions. The lower wishbones have not been welded, however, I measured along the length of the wishbone arm itself but the measurement in the manual is actually between two parallel extended centres of the fulcrum bushes, which explains the apparent difference I found. The wheels have 60 spokes and are 5.5 inches wide, the inside edge of the hub is in line with the rim centre line. The rear axle width is only 10mm greater than the size given in manual. The camber is 0.75 degrees on the left and 0.25 on the right which appears to be closer the specification for a TR4A rather than a TR4. Kevin, I measured the track as per diagram shown in manual i.e. between the outer most surface of the wheel retainers. David
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