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Good evening

 

I've been rebuilding my TR3a engine and it's all back together. Tried to start the engine and she backfired. On closer inspection I find that the rotor arm is not pointing at No. 1 spark plug when the engine is at TDC by reference to the pointer and the hole in the crankshaft pulley. I guess I've messed up somewhere along the way. Is there a simple/straighforward way to reset the distributor to the correct orientation?

 

Your advice is much appreciated by a novice re-builder - many thanks

 

Regards

Andrew King

Swanage

TR3a 1960

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Remove plug No1, finger over the hole

 

Crank the engine when you feel pressure thats when No1 is firing.

 

The pulley May be OK but the dizzy also could have been assembled 180 out.

 

If so remove dizzy, extract the drive gear and turn it 180 degrees and re assemble.

 

then with luck , Geronimo!!!

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Hi Andrew,

the front pulley where the TDC marker is can be fitted 180 degrees out.

 

You need to establish TDC and reset the pulley.

 

Roger

Hi Roger

 

How? The pulley fits a Woodruff key.

 

Most likely the dizzy drive is 180 out.

 

Iain

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Hi Iain,

the pulley can be split in half and fitted back onto its hub upside down

 

The hub 75 has the key slot

 

see items 76 and 77 http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr2-4a/engine/engines-components/internal-engine-components-tr2-4a.html

 

I've been caught out twice by this swinish device

 

Roger

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Hi Roger

Have been caught out by that one myself, the timing hole was 60' out. To be sure make sure number 1 is at tdc and both valves are fully closed, the rotor arm should now point at the number 1 terminal if all is well.

Cheers Richard

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When I got my TR4 the distributor was set 180 degrees out but the ht leads were re arranged to match. When I replaced the leads with shiny new black ones and put it back together it wouldn't run because I had used my 40 years experience with TRs to put them back having not noticed that they weren't standard????

15 minutes saw the distributor drive back where it should be and the motor running again........after half an hour trying to work out what was wrong????????????

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Set no 1 cylinder at t.d.c. on compression, check position of rotor arm

the contact it points to will be no 1 cyl. Connect H.T. lead from this contact to

no 1 cyl. time the rest of the leads 1,3,4,2, Distributor position does not

matter.

 

Harvey S.Maitland

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Set no 1 cylinder at t.d.c. on compression, check position of rotor armthe contact it points to will be no 1 cyl. Connect H.T. lead from this contact tono 1 cyl. time the rest of the leads 1,3,4,2, Distributor position does notmatter.Harvey S.Maitland

Yes that will get it running as in (two wrongs make a right) but sometime in the future the bodge will come back to bite you. Best to set it correctly with crank pulley and dist drive where they should be as described by other posts.

Chris

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Many thanks to everyone for your advice and warnings! Such a relief to realise that the straightforward removal of the distributor spindle and turning it sorted the problem! In my naievity I thought it meshed one way only and I'd got something wrong with the camshaft and timing chain etc.. Engine started but very rough so I've read up the method of resetting the timing and will get onto that this afternoon.

 

Thanks again one and all.

Andrew

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