pfenlon Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) I have fitted the speedo cable from the rear of my J type O/D box (the car was LHD, now converted to RHD) and the cable is routed as per pic, but its about 1 inch too short. am I running the cable correctly. I did buy the cable for an O/D car. Edited September 7, 2017 by pfenlon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOG_MORGAN Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi Pete I had problems with angle drive so buy passed the drive and got a new speedo cable which is for a left hand drive tr 6 from moss which coast £12 oo so far all is ok From Billy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi Pete I had problems with angle drive so buy passed the drive and got a new speedo cable which is for a left hand drive tr 6 from moss which coast £12 oo so far all is ok From Billy Billy I don't have an angle drive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamesStag Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hi Pete, If yours is an A type O/D 'box then I believe you should have the right-angle drive that fits onto the O/D unit. See the below link from Moss, Item 15. http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/clutch-transmission-drivetrain/overdrives-components/a-type-overdrive-fittings.html I think that would get you the extra 1 inch of distance required. Or alternatively, as Billy mentions, it does seem that the LHD cable is longer by around 3 inches so perhaps you can achieve the same end result with a cheaper option 'cos the angle drives are more expensive. Hope that helps. James. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rem18 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Hi Pete, If yours is an A type O/D 'box then I believe you should have the right-angle drive that fits onto the O/D unit. See the below link from Moss, Item 15. http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/triumph/tr5-6/clutch-transmission-drivetrain/overdrives-components/a-type-overdrive-fittings.html I think that would get you the extra 1 inch of distance required. Or alternatively, as Billy m 'cos the angle drives are more expensive. Hope that helps. James. Well said James if you can do it. Edited September 7, 2017 by Rem18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rem18 Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 cos the angle drives are more expensive. And they break all the time.! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geko Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) It looks that it is routed under the GB/engine, try routing it over the GB bell housing Edited September 8, 2017 by Geko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 If you've no angle drive then it'll have to go under the bellhousing and a longer cable is going to be needed. Personally I wouldn't do that due to the risk that something on our crappy roads snags it and rips the back out of the speedo. Fit an angle drive from AlanT and route the cable along the right hand edge of the gearbox top cover. Hyperbole aside for a moment, angle drives don't break all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 It looks that it is routed under the GB/engine, try routing it over the GB bell housing That seems a damn good idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rem18 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Sure the original angle drives were ok but now there are so many bad ones about you have to know what you get. Choose carefully the pages are full of people who have had ones that only lasted minutes. I would have thought if you don't trail it you won't risk much that it will catch. Edited September 8, 2017 by Rem18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have fitted the speedo cable from the rear of my J type O/D box (the car was LHD, now converted to RHD) and the cable is routed as per pic, but its about 1 inch too short. am I running the cable correctly. I did buy the cable for an O/D car. I have fitted the speedo cable from the rear of my J type O/D box (the car was LHD, now converted to RHD) and the cable is routed as per pic, but its about 1 inch too short. am I running the cable correctly. I did buy the cable for an O/D car. Hi.! Did you buy the long one which is 69" long? This is the one that I used on my car as the original was too short at 63" long! Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I did Bruce, but Geko was on the money, cable now routed along the side of the box instead of the chassis and there is now ample cable length to allow connection to the Speedometer. Geko gets thunderous round of applaus! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi All There was a thread a week or so ago about the (it seems) dreaded "angle drive" and the poor quality and unreliability of currently available remanufactured parts, seach under Angle Drive. On it lots said how cheap ones (thats £40 ish) either don't work out of the box or hardly last. The recomendation is buy one from Speedograph, http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/html/rgb2401.html Which are £90. But reading above it seems another solution is to buy a longer LHD speedo cable and route it differently, doing away with the angle drive. Is this correct and will it work for a 72 Pi with an A type OD and if so what is the best cable routing or is the best solution to buy a quality angle drive. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ntc Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Hi All There was a thread a week or so ago about the (it seems) dreaded "angle drive" and the poor quality and unreliability of currently available remanufactured parts, seach under Angle Drive. On it lots said how cheap ones (thats £40 ish) either don't work out of the box or hardly last. The recomendation is buy one from Speedograph, http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/html/rgb2401.html Which are £90. But reading above it seems another solution is to buy a longer LHD speedo cable and route it differently, doing away with the angle drive. Is this correct and will it work for a 72 Pi with an A type OD and if so what is the best cable routing or is the best solution to buy a quality angle drive. Cheers Keith Keith No it will not last long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Sorry Neil being abit thick today. Will the longer cable or Angle drive not last long? I'm kind of assuming the longer cable but wasn't sure. I'll buy the expenive angle drive if it really is better and will last but could do with some feedback on anyones experiences. Ta KEith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfenlon Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Sorry Neil being abit thick today. Will the longer cable or Angle drive not last long? I'm kind of assuming the longer cable but wasn't sure. I'll buy the expenive angle drive if it really is better and will last but could do with some feedback on anyones experiences. Ta KEith Keith if you measure the length of your cable, then give Craig a call at TR Bitz and he WILL advise you correctly as to what you need, his number is 01925 756000. My cable is now fitted without the angle drive, on a J type box. Edited September 9, 2017 by pfenlon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astontr6 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Sorry Neil being abit thick today. Will the longer cable or Angle drive not last long? I'm kind of assuming the longer cable but wasn't sure. I'll buy the expenive angle drive if it really is better and will last but could do with some feedback on anyones experiences. Ta KEith Hi Keith, Our Group leader had 4 off the repro Moss ones in just over 1 year, after I pointed him in the direction of Speedograph he has gone for one of these. In mileage terms, it has out lasted the other 4s total mileage but there is another manufacture of these drives which are made from the original SI tooling/drawings they are called Caerbont Automotive Instruments and are exactly the same as the originals. Price is £84.20 delivered! A friend of mine has used one of these on his MG B and done 5k with it. Bruce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted March 18, 2018 Report Share Posted March 18, 2018 Hi All Dug out my angle and it seems to be an original smiths in good condition, so no apparent wear to the square drive cable drive and turns smoothly. But the car has not run for 20 years so the speedo has been sitting, unmoving firstly in the car in a lock up then in a box in a loft. So would the advice be to reinstall everything and try it? Replace the angle drive, with a quality one and see what happens Refurb the speedo as its been sitting for so long. The stuff I read on here seems to confirm that the generally available angle drives are cheapo units but often the angle drive failing is a symptom of another problem, speedo or cable sticking. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith66 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi All Looks like no strong feelings on this one but I thought I’d update where I am. Contacted AlanT (Angle drive Guru) and he believe mine is an original Smiths unit and with the gears seemingly running smoothly and no obvious wear to the square drive cable drive I’ve decided to refit it and see how it goes. I’d already had a quote off Speedograph Richfield for a new angle drive but decided to get them to repair the US tacho and renew both tacho and speedo cables. Interestingly this means that the lead time is much reduced as they build each angel drive to order. Cheers Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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