Mad Welshman Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Hi Guys My TR4 has a stainless steel windscreen frame I have not seen another TR with one I dont think it was fitted originally as I have pictures of a rotten screen frame on the car before it was restored also it has been badly painted & the rest of the car is nice so I am guessing it was replaced after the resto by someone else did they ever fit one from the factory ? it has the little hooks for the hood string to hook on to is this unique to the TR4 ?? many thanks in advance to the knowlagable :-) , Jon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Photo please. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drewmotty Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 Are you sure that it's stainless. Could it have been plated? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Welshman Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 To clarify the inner is steel and the outer is stainless I thought it was just a thin cover for trim at first but its definately the outer skin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Convinced me now, plated or some other finish. If a magnet sticks on it very unlikely to be Stainless, Think about it, why would anybody have a stainless surface on the outside where it is able to dry and yet leave the inner surface ( especially in the corners near the locating pins) standard finish to rot at will ( which it does) as it gets wet. Micky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 We are talking about the whole frame and not just the top cap aren't we? A picture would really help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi Jon, if somebody made and sold a windscreen frame made completely of stainless then they would be onto a winner. These frames were designed to rot away from the word go - and they did. However it is quite a complex bit of fabrication. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barry p cook Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Roger is not kidding. I thought my welder could have a well deserved rest but when I took off the rubber seal and vinyl trim I found this mess. I've made a jig just in case the screen pins come adrift when I chop out all the rot. Making the replacement pieces should be fun. Has anyone done this sort of repair before and do they have any tips they learnt in the process? Thanks, Barry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I've one to do that's not quite so bad and initial thoughts are making it in 2 pieces, welding them together along the outside corner radius after bending and twisting the major flat screen seating portion into position and tacking in place. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Welshman Posted June 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Hi all the whole outer skin is stainless the inner skin is steel suerly this cant be the only one ever made ?? I will take a pic when I have a min its been brush painted poorley so I am sure it was fitted after the restoration so in the winter I will remove it strip it and paint it properly ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stillp Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 suerly this cant be the only one ever made ?? It might be! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Still need a picture... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Roger is not kidding. I thought my welder could have a well deserved rest but when I took off the rubber seal and vinyl trim I found this mess. I've made a jig just in case the screen pins come adrift when I chop out all the rot. Making the replacement pieces should be fun. Has anyone done this sort of repair before and do they have any tips they learnt in the process? Thanks, Barry IMG_0660.jpg Done loads like this. Do it in several sections, start at the best bit of steel you have on the base up to the leg and then do the rear section and then the front. FWIW when you have done all that you will find you cant weld to the inside section of the leg (Never weld where you cant grind) this is why the factory brazed around the base of the leg. This way you can get it to flow in nice and give better clearance for the lower screen seal and so it sits down in the deck hole right. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuartmac Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 Is there a picture? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fremont Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 I have a TR4 screen frame on my '250 driver with its Surrey/hardtop. It was a very early one because it had a chromed brass capping . When I got it painted to match the car it was necessary to replace the RH lower inside corner. There was no rust visible except where the seal sat. The other (3) TR250 screen frames I've had never had any rust ( unless perhaps internally due to lack of paint and of no consequence ). I'm a little puzzled as to why these should have severe rust problems. Where does the water enter, typically? Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 I have a TR4 screen frame on my '250 driver with its Surrey/hardtop. It was a very early one because it had a chromed brass capping . When I got it painted to match the car it was necessary to replace the RH lower inside corner. There was no rust visible except where the seal sat. The other (3) TR250 screen frames I've had never had any rust ( unless perhaps internally due to lack of paint and of no consequence ). I'm a little puzzled as to why these should have severe rust problems. Where does the water enter, typically? Cheers, Tom Usually through under the capping where it hasnt been properly sealed or where it has got in behind the screen rubber and laid in the bottom corners or its managed to get behind the upper side of the lower screen frame rubber. You have got to remember that we have always used lots of salt on the roads over here Tom.and often its never properly washed off. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barry p cook Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Mick, Stuart, Many thanks for the advice. I am away next week but will give it a go the week after. Regards, Barry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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