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Hi just a quick heads up to those using Millers Oils Classic High Performance 20w50 NT oil

 

Just stocking up for this season and found that all the links I had were now pointing to something called Millers Pistoneeze Classic Sport 20w50, and that virtually nobody had the Classic High Performance 20w50 NT in stock.

 

Bit confused I called Millers technical and was told that Classic Sport HP20w50 was the replacement and identical product.

 

Magic, so off to order some. Even further confusion as prices from different suppliers were all over the shop, and some descriptions referred to it as a semi-synthetic whilst the Classic High Performance 20w50 NT was a fully synthetic.

 

So called tech support at OPIE oils who I have normally purchased from to ask what was going on. Yes major confusion at the moment! Millers now supply 2 Classic Sport Oils

 

1) Millers Oils Pistoneeze Classic Sport HP 20W-50

2) Millers Oils Pistoneeze Classic Sport 20W-50
And to further confuse things have put both in almost identical Tins (The HP 20w50 NT used to come in Plastic) So even if you order the correct item, apparently picking the wrong item for dispatch is easy!
Anyway a bit of digging shows that some suppliers are selling the Classic Sport 20w50 and describing it as a replacement for the Classic High Performance 20w50 NT "It isn't"! you need Classic Sport HP 20w50! So be careful when buying!
Alan
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Well then Alan you broached it and then didn't clarify...

 

Where does synthetic, semi synthetic, or non synthetic come into it with whichever of these two oils and which of them is the now preferred ? HP version.

 

Mick Richards

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Thanks Alan, so the Millers Classic Sport HP 20w50 is what I want for a synthetic oil ?

 

Mick Richards

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Yes & the 'ordinary' 20/50 Classic Sport is the semi synthetic. I used to be very pro Millers but they have hugely increased their prices, confused many people with their stupid almost identical metal cans & were very unhelpful when I requested clarification some weeks ago regarding their pricing & change from plastic to metal containers. Will probably change to a better value product in due course.

Regards.

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Yes & the 'ordinary' 20/50 Classic Sport is the semi synthetic. I used to be very pro Millers but they have hugely increased their prices, confused many people with their stupid almost identical metal cans & were very unhelpful when I requested clarification some weeks ago regarding their pricing & change from plastic to metal containers. Will probably change to a better value product in due course.

Regards.

Then talk to supplies who are very helpful.

 

If I remember correctly 5ltr of classic sport is £33.00 + vat

 

Tom

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Thanks Alan, so the Millers Classic Sport HP 20w50 is what I want for a synthetic oil ?

 

Mick Richards

 

Yes

 

Yes & the 'ordinary' 20/50 Classic Sport is the semi synthetic. I used to be very pro Millers but they have hugely increased their prices, confused many people with their stupid almost identical metal cans & were very unhelpful when I requested clarification some weeks ago regarding their pricing & change from plastic to metal containers. Will probably change to a better value product in due course.

Regards.

 

Try phoning (not ebay, not website) OPIE oils and get price for 20Ltr, it should make you :)

 

 

 

Cheaper maybe, but it is only a mineral oil so its a 20 weight oil with things (that die) in it to make it try and behave as a 50 when it gets hot, so value becomes subjective!

 

Alan

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Cheaper maybe, but it is only a mineral oil so its a 20 weight oil with things (that die) in it to make it try and behave as a 50 when it gets hot, so value becomes subjective!

 

Alan

I'm more than happy to choose a mineral 20/50, particularly one that places the ZDDP numbers on the label rather than have you guess :)

 

..... Andy

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Then talk to supplies who are very helpful.

If I remember correctly 5ltr of classic sport is £33.00 + vat

Tom

Who are supplies?

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Correct, iPhone typing and wine do not mix!!

 

Yes, suppliers....

 

Tom

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I remember in my teenage years running the TR (and everything else) on 'reclaim' oil when funds were tight. Bullfrog, the local scrappie, used to drain anything oil wise that looked less black than molasses and run it through a filter into big drums. Engine, gearbox, diff oil - it all went in. If Bullie was in a good mood, and you looked deserving, a gallon of 'reclaim' cost about as much as a pint of Duckhams . . . . . or if you were that skint, an hour's hard graft sweeping and tidying or whatever.

 

He did 'reclaim' petrol too, but not for sale - you could only have that for grafting on really mucky tasks, but he was quite generous with it. Three hours on a Sunday morning topped up the tank for the week.

 

Funny thing is, we never seemed to blow engines or transmissions on 'reclaim', regardless of our inability to take note of red lines on the tacho.

 

Maybe TRs were made of sterner stuff back in the day ?

 

Cheers,

 

Alec

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OMG Alec .....'reclaimed oil' the scrappy at Colnbrook used to do that too! Dunno about a filter he just used to strain it through several layers of sacking into a big square tank located in the back of an old truck body. Never bought any myself but often used to go there on a Sunday afternoon looking for anything useful.

As for oil ....for me it was only Duckhams Q the green stuff! Oil change once every 3k and/or any trip over 100 miles!

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