DaveN Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Any thoughts on these Dutch manufactured radiators? eBay.co.uk ......item number 112298747525. My new radiator that was purchased two years ago and only installed a year and 3000 miles ago has sprung a leak! I am going to send it to be re-cored any way. But came across this on the bay! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I live in The Netherlands and do not know this company. If you read the add closer, they are based in Hongkong. So I assume the radiators are fabricated in China. This is not nessecarily wrong, as long as long as quality control (also on rhe materials used) is good. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 Waldi thanks for that I never read the add thoroughly, my excuse it was late at night! Made in China ......think I'll give it a miss! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 If your radiator with the leak is an original copper one why not give it another go ? it displaces heat better than alloy and are very robust. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waldi Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 +1 If you do a recore, the company that does it may even be able to install a new matrix with higher capacity than the original. Waldi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 I had already packed it to send to a chap who advertises on the 'Bay' a federation of radiator repairers or member! It will be a tad more expensive but I guess better than something made in China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richardtr3a Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I had my radiator recored with a new hi efficiency matrix with the vertical tubes offset. I also have an expansion tank and the radiator cap replaced with a blank and the pressure cap on the expansion. It works really well. Why are so many Chinese components causing problems? My lap ptop is made in China and has been faultless for years. Is it lack of supervision, cost cutting, or dishonest. The car parts business must be a nightmare for the suppliers. Richard & H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TriumphV8 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I bought one of these and it was the worst purchase I ever made. Mine was from GPI, also a company located in Alkmaar. They seem to be one company that sell under different names. The item was badly welded and both ears to fix the rad at the frame are welded at an nearly 45 degree angle. Fully unsuitable! One ear was that much out of range that it could not be welded. It hang half way in the air! After a long way of negotiation i sent it back but did not get the full refund for shipping and voted negative. Although Ebay tried its best to tell the guys its against the law what they did they did not refund! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sadly, it is not the Chinese that are at fault as such. They make to a supplied specification. The specification is set to a price by the originator. You pay peanuts....etc etc. The Chinese put rockets into space and make the computers that we use perfectly everyday. A couple of years ago I had a chat with a well known supplier and queried why they stock cheap parts (bearings a particular bug bear) The reply was simple - Expensive parts would sit on the shelf. The cheap ones would sell. Otherwise people buy cheap else where and we have no sales. Imagine if you had the option of a £25 bearing or a £80 bearing doing the same job with supposedly the same makers mark. I know what I would buy and I also know what many others would buy. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iain Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sadly, it is not the Chinese that are at fault as such. They make to a supplied specification. The specification is set to a price by the originator. You pay peanuts....etc etc. The Chinese put rockets into space and make the computers that we use perfectly everyday. A couple of years ago I had a chat with a well known supplier and queried why they stock cheap parts (bearings a particular bug bear) The reply was simple - Expensive parts would sit on the shelf. The cheap ones would sell. Otherwise people buy cheap else where and we have no sales. Imagine if you had the option of a £25 bearing or a £80 bearing doing the same job with supposedly the same makers mark. I know what I would buy and I also know what many others would buy. Roger Roger I think it is time we stopped this self fulfilling prophecy........I am sure I am not alone in being heartily fed up of C"£P parts. It is unfortunate that the attitude of many is I can get that for £X or "so and so is selling it for 3£X", so I went for £X. Trouble is £X is often not the same as the part costing 3£X.......quality I am afraid costs. The only people being fooled is the purchaser, the vendor knows full well they are selling rubbish. What is most annoying is when you pay a premium price and get C"£"P! I have a simple motto, if a job needs doing, do it right and do it once! Evidence why NOS parts are so sort after. Some of our new parts ensure we do it "right" ....but many times......ref the latest shemozzle with tappets....fit for stillage and not purpose. Iain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Hi Iain, quite right. Cheap is no good at all - unless it is autojumble and a lucky day. The suppliers have got some good repro parts but there are enough iffy ones to feel hard done by. If a supplier says he has OEM parts then the price will reflect that - anything cheaper is a gamble. As you know myself and IanB try to resolve dodgy quality but there are limits. The rocker arm should not have broken - but it did. There was evidence of something not right about the failure mode but what it is is beyond me. Apparently this was the first failure -if it happens again where do we go - we do have have some science to help us next time. However these arms are not cheap - they should work. Time will tell. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jean Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 To add to the discussion about NOS parts I wonder sometimes if they are of a such superior quality. I'm afraid that they now last longer because they are used in a different way. Myself I drive TR's since 1963. When I purchased my TR6 in 1973 the car was less than 3 years old and had been driven during 2 winters. All 4 wings were perforated by rust, and this was ORIGINAL QUALITY ?? as we would call it now. I' m sure that the TR would not have survived 8 years in the Luxemburgish climate when used as a daily driver. With a lot of care given to it the car is now better than in 1973, without a major restoration, Instead of repairing I opted to replace the 4 wings, this more than 20 years ago when they were still available in good fitting quality and at a reasonable price. I must say that the old wings I did throw away were in a much better condition than most TR6 wings I see on autojumbles..... advertised at far over 100 pounds .. I do in no way contest, that today a lot of "remake parts" are worse than NOS, especially parts where rubber is involved, not to forget cheap bearings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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