bookend69 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hi All My 250 is nearing completion but there is nothing to grab hold of to close the door. I've purchased the plastic door capping's, but am not sure whether I want to fit them. I believe the original detail would have been chrome pull handles and can see on the internal metal skin of the door are two square holes, where I assume plastic captive nuts clip in and then the handles are screwed to these. If this is correct, does anyone have 4 I could purchase please? I've tried Rimmers, TRBitz and Moss, but no luck so far. Cheers Martyn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hi Martyn, they are steel cage nuts and no longer available. This has come up a number of times and no nuts ever appear. There are various ways around it if you have an imaginative mind. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bookend69 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hi Roger Thank you. I always wondered what it would feel like to be wrong about something and its not as bad as I feared!! I'll have a rummage round and also put my thinking cap on to see what I come up with. Cheers Martyn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) The chromed door pull handles were discontinued at end of 4a production hence why the 250/5 has the door pull incorporated in the capping. The captives have been NLS for years but the alternative can be the Landrover type of plastic insert, I dont have a part number but Im sure someone will. Stuart. Edited February 1, 2017 by stuart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytr5 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm pretty sure the 250/5 wouldn't have had the chrome handles as these were deleted in favour of the moulded door top pulls. That's not to say you shouldn't fit them, depending on your originality outlook. Jerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3md Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Various types of cavity fixing anchor, as seen at Screwfix/B&Q etc, are worth a look. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTR3A-5EKT Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Is the square hole in the door frame 13/32" square? If so you are in luck as FC2804 would probably do it. Like Stuart I have used the plastic things from Land Rover previously as I had a few in the drawer.-still have in fact, but they need cutting to fit as they are extended length. http://www.bresco.com/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?page=search&SS=FC2804+&PR=-1&TB=O&ACTION=Go%21 Cheers Peter W Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bookend69 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hi chaps Thank you all for your input. My car was far from original when I bought it, having been converted to rhd. I've now fitted PI plus a TR6 head and cam, MX5 seats and all leather interior in tan. I'll be fitting ss beadings on the wings. I've fitted minilite style knock on wheels, removed the bumpers and am fitting Cibie spots and fogs. I always change my cars to suit me and don't go much with originality, although don't go too outlandish. I keep the parts I take off in case I sell in the future and someone wants original detail, but it suits my taste and its a nice place for me to sit and enjoy the drive. I don't tend to sell my classics though, so it will be for someone else to sort out when I'm gone, which hopefully wont be for a long time yet! I found some 1/4" square nylon snap in nuts on the Bresco Vehicle Services Limited web site, so have ordered a packet and will let you know how I get on. Cheers Martyn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ransomes256 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Not sure on what thread you require but here is an ebay listing for 3/16" UNF captive nuts. Nothing to do with me. Neil eBay item number: 111867579760 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel A Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I bought the cage nuts from Revingtons years ago but I had to file out the square holes for the clips to fit. Cheers Nigel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard71 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 I fitted the handles with the plastic nut inserts, it was a few years ago, but I'm quite certain I sourced them from TRGB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmore179 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Bresco do them as I bought some a few years ago when I did this mod on my TR6 Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlejim Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Google finds them, tho' top of the list were metric. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Like Neil above suggests don't rule out eBay. This eBay seller may get you out of a hole http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-4-034-UNF-CAGED-NUTS-/111360745635 Check out his other items for different sizes Not the cheapest but they are imperial sizes. Check the picture as the pack label gives a tel number Worth a go if you are struggling. H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 We have been here so many times over the years, no-one does the correct 8/32UNF cages that are required in the correct miniature size to fit original holes in the door shells. You do need to improvise Im afraid. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Hi Folks, it would be very easy to make your own cage nuts. The cage is just a simple locating device. The first problem is getting 8/32 plain nuts - they are not as common as you may think. However with an 8/32 UNF tap and a length of 5/16" square steel bar it would be easy enough to knock some up. The cage doesn't have to be fancy just enough to hold the nut. 0.4mm ali would suffice and easy to work. I'll try and do a little drawing later on. Roger Edited February 2, 2017 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Hi Folks, it would be very easy to make your own cage nuts. The cage is just a simple locating device. The first problem is getting 8/32 plain nuts - they are not as common as you may think. However with an 8/32 UNF tap and a length of 5/16" square steel bar it would be easy enough to knock some up. The cage doesn't have to be fancy just enough to hold the nut. 0.4mm ali would suffice and easy to work. I'll try and do a little drawing later on. Roger Its the correct spring steel for the cage that is the difficult bit, if its not then the lips of the cage wont spring back to hold it in place. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveN Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Google..... 8/32 cage nuts 338459 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Hi Stuart they don;t have to be sprung into position. I was thinking that the retaining ears could simply be folded over the door skin. They don;t suffer a great deal of stress when in use. The cages nuts in post 18 above look too big and the quantity is 1000 pieces. Roger Edited February 2, 2017 by RogerH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Drill the Door and fire in a couple of self tappers,Sorted. Edited February 2, 2017 by TR NIALL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 :o Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Freer Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I keep mine captive in a purpose designed bag......................... at a perfect temperature.................... I'll get my coat (slightly surprised this thread has got so long before things went flippant) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 If you don't mind going metric, you could try Wellnuts. This sort of thing on eBay --- item 251416538653 Charlie D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Or these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RACK-FIXING-CAPTIVE-NUT-Part-Number-S1170-/350781227429?hash=item51ac30c1a5:g:QNQAAOxywXFScA2z They are M6 thread, but could be re-tapped to ¼" UNF Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlejim Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Drill the Door and fire in a couple of self tappers,Sorted. Just remembered this site from when I was doing the 4A up..http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/cage_nuts.htm Niall's already sorted it in a similar fashion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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