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TR4a Front Lower Wing repair panels query


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Hi all,

 

Has anyone had any experience of welding on the lower wing repair panels available from Moss?

 

I assume it has a joggle/recess in it to allow for an overlap of the panels or does it assume butt weld.

 

 

 

Regards

 

Steven

 

 

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Normally such panels have extra width and you use as much of it as you need.

 

No matter what I would not rely on a butt weld in a area of high vibration like this.

Too likely to crack later on.

 

And panels like this like to go wavy if you do a lot of welding.

 

And also much easier to have an overlap either joddled in or use a backing strip.

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They dont come with a joddle so you will have to fit one, best to do that to the wing and then if you weld carefully with attention to heat soak and take your time its unlikely to be a problem with distortion. As Alan has stated only use the minimum that you need but there is zero chance of that area cracking again as it is held in place well.

Stuart.

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Hi Steve.

If you can, get a look at the joddler/step tool before you buy it.

Some 'cheap ones' crease/wrinkle the metal at the same time as producing the step (guess how I know)......

Buy good ones, set them very light, and do the step in several 'progressive' passes.

 

Also, if you are concerned over the heat causing issues, get something like this :-

http://www.frost.co.uk/auto-bodywork-welding-metalworking-machine/automotive-welding-tools/welding-tool-accessories-welder/cold-front-414ml.html

 

I had some I pinched borrowed from a welding contractor (in a former life, so guilt free)

It was really good, and despite doing 1" long butt welds, the floorpan I was fixing showed no distortion, and the paint 'beyond' the putty was unnaffected!

It is a bit mucky to clean up before paint, but worth it!

 

Good luck!

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Here I am doing something similar on a bootlid. You can see the "zig-zag" Roger mentions above.

 

Previously I have joddled the boot-lid and fitted Roger's repair panel flat.

On this lid I left the boot-lid flat and joddled Roger's panel.

 

I got less distortion on this one than usual.

This may be because of the joddling but there could be other factors.

 

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Thanks for replies. I best get some of that heat stopper putty.

 

So am I correct with my understanding that a joggler produces a step that allows for an over lap. The overlap obviously increases the strength of the panel once welded. But I assume when using a joggler you have two seams to weld (one inside, one outside).

 

You mention welding in a zigzag pattern, could this be by welding one spot on the front one spot on the rear?

 

I assume once the panels are held together weld lengths can be gradually increased till they are continuous to reduce any chance of water ingress.

 

Have I got this all correct?

 

Steve

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