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Hi All,

 

Just wanted opinion on asking price for this TR4.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181776968346?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

 

Tx

John

Too much with the black underbonnet and in the boot, also some poor detailing and panel fit.

Stuart.

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Drive it round to Shortlands John, I'll look after it for you ( for free :ph34r: )

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John,

 

Sorry to say that the black underbonnet and boot will put most people off. Despite your best intentions it usually means that somebody is covering something up.

 

Cheers

Graeme

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Personally I prefer the black underbonnet and boot interior, practical and sensible compared to the more usual body paint finish.

 

That's a minority opinion of course, and the average classic car buyer seems to prefer shiny gloss paint under his or her bonnet and boot.

 

If this TR4 is as decent underneath as it looks on top, I'd have thought it should fetch £15K ish, but somehow I doubt £17.5K . . . . .

 

No criticism of the car as such, simply my personal opinion of how the market currently seems to work.

 

Cheers

 

Alec

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Personally I prefer the black underbonnet and boot interior, practical and sensible compared to the more usual body paint finish.

 

That's a minority opinion of course, and the average classic car buyer seems to prefer shiny gloss paint under his or her bonnet and boot.

 

If this TR4 is as decent underneath as it looks on top, I'd have thought it should fetch £15K ish, but somehow I doubt £17.5K . . . . .

 

No criticism of the car as such, simply my personal opinion of how the market currently seems to work.

 

Cheers

 

Alec

I think you are spot on Alec, and yes underneath it is as neat as on top.

Guess I'l have to lower the price.

 

Thanks all for the input.

 

cheers

John.

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John,

 

Not that I'm looking to buy a TR4 - have two already,

but if I was, then what would concern me is:

 

You seem to have done most of the work yourself,

but a buyer has no idea of your expertise.

Not that TR4s are that complicated that they can't

be restored at home, but there are many pitfalls and

plenty of areas to get things a bit wrong, especially

if it's your first TR4 restoration. Is it?

 

As Stuart has pointed out, there are a number of

smallish details that aren't quite right, and this would

lead me to be concerned about everything that is

not visible from the photos.

 

I don't know what level of response the Classified Ads

get but I suspect it may not be so great. Any responses

are likely to attract chancers who will offer way below

the asking price.

 

If you can post a couple of photos of the restoration in

progress, that may help explain the extent of work done.

 

When all said and done, £15k is a very low price for a

genuine not and bolt rebuild.

So low that it would arouse my suspicions.

 

AlanR

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Thanks Alan,

 

Its up for sale for 16500 now.

 

you say some things don't look ''quite right''.

 

could you point them out to me?

 

I have restored cars all my life but most admit this is the only Tr4. It has been a -literally-nut and bolt resto.

 

If I hadn't taken on another project I wouldnt sell it.

 

I love restoring cars more then I love driving them....

 

wish I had bigger garage.....

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Thanks Alan,

Its up for sale for 16500 now.

you say some things don't look ''quite right''.

could you point them out to me?

TR owners on this Forum are a polite bunch (maybe some exceptions!)

and they don't like to knock someone elses restoration efforts.

 

The quality of the advert (details provided, quality of photos) leaves a lot

to be desired and will not attract someone who is looking for a TR4 in the

price range of your asking price.

 

Have sent you a PM.

 

AlanR

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knock the price down to 15K and be ready to start from there, put the bumper and original seats back on, connect the heater, remove the steering wheel skin, change the horns, delete any reference to "bolts&nuts" and "meticulous" restoration on the ad. and close that driver door properly if you can....

 

Check the competitors including this one has been online for more than one year: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1965-Triumph-TR4a-IRS-Surrey-Top-Roadster-Original-UK-Car-/361328251210?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5420d7914aand the condition of this one which seems fairly priced: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-Triumph-TR4-Rare-White-Dash-Model-Convertible-OVER-DRIVE-RHD-UK-CAR-/151661158323?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item234fb59fb3

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I read this thread with a great deal of interest, especially the mis guided view that "professional" restoration is more reliable than an amateur job. Of course incompetent amateurs can make a real hash of things, but then so can and do professionals.

 

Next to my own factory there is a classic car workshop that specialises in MG's however all marques pass through. yesterday the owner of the workshop attracted my attention to a very interesting "professionally" restored TR5 that the owner had purchased last year for 45K. It was worthy of the worst amateur resto project of the year award.

 

I also know of a regular contributor on these pages who is a professional who did some work on a TR belonging to a pal of mine earlier this year. The person concerned will be lucky if a County Court summons is not served.

 

My point is that many amateurs are every bit as competent as someone who makes a living from older car work and that to suggest that the vehicle in question here has not been exposed to such skill is completely wrong, And for a contributor to claim that a TR4 can not be restored at home is quite simply nonsense.

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Well done John,

 

and hopefully you've achieved the price you aimed for.

 

If it's any consolation, I fail to understand some of the commentary too. Amateurs and professionals alike can produce excellent work on occasion, and at other times amateurs and professionals alike can fall short of the desired standard.

 

There's no substitute for the Mk1 eyeball, talented indeed is the man who can see it all from photographs . . . . but as already noted, you could do yourself a considerable favour by concentrating on good clear photos and plenty of them. As an example, have a look at the two bikes I mention in this post

 

http://www.tr-register.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/52720-big-bike-anyone-mt-01-fat-bob-must-go/

 

Between them they generated over 4000 page views and over 200 watchers.

 

Sunbeam Talbot 90 coupe sounds like fun - lovely old cars. Coincidentally, whilst going through some of my Humber spares this afternoon I turned up a small ST nave plate badge - some Humbers and Sunbeam Talbots shared the same nave plate, wheel trim if you prefer. If you'd like it you're welcome, they're perhaps not too common ?

 

Cheers

 

Alec

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I read this thread with a great deal of interest, especially the mis guided view that "professional" restoration

is more reliable than an amateur job. Of course incompetent amateurs can make a real hash of things,

but then so can and do professionals.

 

Was just looking through the thread to see what prompted KOB's comment.

Must have been a post deleted?

 

AlanR

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Badge will be on its way John - decent enough nick, and probably about as common as a virgin in a knocking shop.

 

You don't owe me anything for it - but next time you see a collecting tin for those poor bloody displaced families in the Middle East, stick a few bob in, please.

 

What goes around, comes around . . . . .

 

Cheers

 

Alec

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