Revolution Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Hello everyone Just a quick question - am replacing the front wheel bearings and have removed the hub and outer bearing (knackered) The inner bearing is sat in its recess in the hub.........before I do any damage, does it just tap out to the rear of the hub or is there anything else holding it in place? Thank you Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peejay4A Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 It should just tap out to the rear. There's a felt grease seal that needs to be removed as well. Make sure you get all of the old felt seal out, including the metal part. If you try to put a new seal in without having removed the metal part you'll have all sorts of trouble - and I know this how? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Sorry if this is obvious, but both the inner, & outer bearing's outer parts need to be drifted out of the hub - the rear is drifted from the front, & vica versa. From your description it sounds to me as if you have only removed the inner part, which includes the rollers. all parts need to be replaced at the same time. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 If you clean out the old grease from the hub you should see the recesses in the hub that expose a small section of the outer race of the bearings that you can use to drift them out. I use a short length of aluminum rod but if you are careful any handy drift will do. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Thanks for your comments everyone...really helpful, on with the next stage now! Noticed I don't have an oil felt on one side, no wonder it was all a bit slack Must remember to remove the old metal parts as per Peejay above, before I fit the new felts! Cheers, Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graze Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Nick Some discussion has been had about soaking the new felt in oil before fitting and also trimming the felt to size? I'm not sure on the recommended way but would be interested to hear from those who do Graze Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 My felts were from the TR shop, & yes, I had to reduce the thickness by about 50%. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peter clarke Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Use good quality bearings like Timken. The outer bearing carries a high load and some of the no name brands are not up to the job ......the rollers are not of the required hardness and they wear quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Guys Next episode......bearings all removed and new ones inserted BUT, the oil felt seems to have been replaced by a nylon bush ( is this from a Spitfire bearing kit?) What I'm not sure about is : 1. Is it best to replace with a new nylon bush or the felt seal which comes with the kit? 2. Does the nylon bush also fit into a retainer which will need to be removed - difficult to see if there's one fitted? 3. Does the felt seal fit facing inwards or does the felt butt up against the hub (this would mean metal retainer would sit next to the metal hub where the inner bearing is situated....doesn't seem right?) Help please.......photo attached Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not sure what the nylon part is all about. There are other alternatives to the felt seal so perhaps that is what the nylon thing is. If you are using the standard felt seal in the metal carrier, the felt faces towards the vertical link, ie it goes into the hub metal part first. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hi Stan I think the rubber seals were put in by a previous owner Attached thumbnails of "felt seal in carrier"......is this the right way round? Thanks, Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foster461 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Your pictures have the felt seal in the correct orientation Nick. The felt goes against the machined surface of the vertical link to act as a grease seal. It helps to have a set of bearing presses to get all of these bits pressed into the hub and a wheel bearing greaser to pack the bearings with grease. Stan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hi Nick, you will need to remove nearly all the exposed felt as they are too big. leave about 1/16 - 1/8. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hi Nick, you will need to remove nearly all the exposed felt as they are too big. leave about 1/16 - 1/8. Roger You can add this too your list of **** parts Roger. Been like this for years. I sometimes wonder how many have just used as is and clamped it up all tight.... Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Thanks everyone, reassembly today ! Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi Guy, I was speaking to Jeff M at Moss late last year and they were looking into the issue. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Royal Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi Guy, I was speaking to Jeff M at Moss late last year and they were looking into the issue. Roger Roger Excellent Cheers Guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graze Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I sometimes wonder how many have just used as is and clamped it up all tight.... Cheers Guy[/quotas what happens then? Premature bearing wear? Failure? Graze Edited May 8, 2015 by Graze Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Guys, So far so good, the felts were cut down, fitted and the bearings all back in place and adjusted They took a bit of adjusting to allow for the felt seal and bearings to settle a bit Then, the simplest of jobs.....replacing the disc dust shield ! Can I get the bl.....dy things in the right place How stupid do I feel? Very..... Would someone be able to please attach a photo to show their position and how to manouevre them into place....thank you.....big time! Cheers, Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hi Graze, the felt needs to be just thick enough to touch the VL bearing surface. If it is too tight then you will generate a fair bit of heat and very possibly not have the bearing tight against its seat. Hi NIck, hold the dust shield like a frisby and see how far you can get it. Pick up the other one and see if you can get it further. And then; leave them there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graze Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Roger Love the frisbee theory So given I did my seals without trimming, I probably need to re do them I have adjusted them up twice Why do they make parts which like this which need trimming? Or without instruction Graze ( feeling stupid) Edited May 9, 2015 by Graze Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grahamgl Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hi Graze, I have just measured the thickness of a new old stock seal and it is 0.334" overall including the metal carrier. Graham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Graze Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Thanks Graham I'll know what to cut them down to Graeme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hi Graze, because they are either made badly or the wrong ones. Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolution Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hello Everyone! Well after a few more pathetic attempts I started training as frisbee thrower as per Roger's advice! I did quite well and after nearly decapitating the neighbour's cat, the Disc dust covers are lanquishing at the bottom of the garden awaiting collection later on this evening! Never mind, bolt on the brake callipers......offside no problem, wheel turning nicely etc., Nearside. OMG, would you believe it the disc is jamming aginst the calliper even after the pads have been taken out On closer examination, the disc is protuding a few mill' too far out from the hub.........those bl......dy felt pads !!! I can't trim anymore off and I now understand why the prev owner had fitted the rubber lip seals (as per Spitfire option) as they are thinner than those horrible felt pads Question: Does anyone know where I can get the rubber seals , part no: GHK1021 ? When I stripped the nearside bearing down, the seal was missing so presumably to gain the right amount of clearance the PO dispensed with the seal altogether and ran the car without it.......... I'm now losing my long lasting affection for this car and if I had the strength, it too would be nestling at the bottom of the garden!!! Any advice welcomed? Cheers, Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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