YankeeTR5 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 So, I've looked at a couple of Doretti's over the past 10 years and passed. What a mistake. All were around $10K u.s. Fantasy Junction is a long time seller of classic Euro sports cars and normally seem to have a pretty good pulse on the market, but not sure they figured this one correctly... http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/1136-Swallow-Doretti-2.0%20Litre%20Inline%204-Cylinder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I am also a Doretti fan. I believe this would be very much a world record price, albeit for a fabulous restoration. My understanding of Doretti values is that they roughly mirror those of Triumph Italia (I know a little bit more about those.) I think £100k for a 'perfect' example is about what the current market might pay. If I had £100k for a Doretti, I would speak to my registrar colleague Ken Yankey, and there was a fabulous example at Harrogate which would be high on my wish list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Fantasy Junction prices are always well over the top and they are trading very heavily on the "Eligibility" of this car to gain entrance to prestigious events. That said its been very well restored at a high end restoration company just a shame about the trim colours. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malocomotion Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 crazy ! Just as the Italia... Does anyone know exactly what to pay for ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigbush Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I thought CA blackplates were only issued between 1963-1969? I heard that a Bill had been issued recently allowing such plates to be put on genuine period cars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italia 227 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Remember that if Fantasy Junction is just acting as a selling intermediary (probable), they've simply agreed on net proceeds to the seller (likely much less than $225k), and are then free to take a flyer at a very high price to see if anyone bites. I too profess no special Doretti knowledge, but this would appear at least 2x high. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Utterly barmy. The Doretti was a remarkable achievement in many respects, not least the design and development timescale. Arguably a better car in several important aspects than the TR2, and considerably more exclusive. But $225K ? And in that colour scheme ? As ever the devil is in the detail. About as accurate as the dubious verbiage. John McEnroe would be lost for words. Just my opinion of course, as a former Doretti owner and one of the handful who kept the all but forgotten marque alive back in the 70s. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Insane. One of my very good friends is Tom Householder, the guy who has the doretti.com domain and what might be the worlds largest Doretti car/parts/wrecks accumulation -- including at least one Balchowsky car. He's typically on a first-name basis with all the known cars and any living owners in the car's history. His research into the marque over the last thirty years or so has been impressive. (Tom founded what's now the TRA circa 1969-70, helped me find the TR3B I still have over thirty three years ago, and has taught me most of what I know about Triumphs). Anyone looking seriously for information on this car or the marque lemme know through pm and I can put you in touch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 I thought CA blackplates were only issued between 1963-1969? I heard that a Bill had been issued recently allowing such plates to be put on genuine period cars. Here you go Gavin CA plate order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_California Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 I am now very worried, my wife took a fancy to one of these at Brooklands earlier in the year. I am going to get my publicist (if she's not in prison by now) out there whispering that TR3a's are THE future classic and that buying now, even at stupidly inflated prices would be a wise investment. At the same time I will get them to rubbish TR5's ! Do we have anything like pebbly beach here? There are the auctions, there is Goodwood for cars going round in circles and the odd function in Chelsea, but I haven't come across anything Pebble like (or should I say my publicist hasn't ever got me an invite to one !!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Austin, You've just missed the UK premier Concours weekend. Salon Prive and Hampton Court Concours were both major international events with cars prepared and flown in from USA especially for both events. Alec raises a very valid point - and one which only a marque expert can make. CORRECTNESS is now more important than CONDITION in getting 'top money.' Anyone with a cheque book can restore or buy a rare car in stunning condition. Very few restorers and collectors bother with absolutely correct original detail. BOTH must be present to achieve a world record price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 UK PREMIER CONCOURS ! How come no one called me to bring NAF 666 along ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wrong accent old boy.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McMuttley Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Tha wot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 By 'eck Paul, thee's trampin' on marshy moss now. Us Northern lads stick together when affronted by ruddy Southerners . . . . . You're not qualified to comment on cricket, either. Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Dear Up Bloody North brethren, Neither my accent nor my car were deemed suitable for Salon Prive either. .....perhaps i should have offered them a Doretti? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Salon Prive . . . . . ? Sounds like an upmarket gathering of cottagers to me . . . . funny hand shakes of the third kind. Concours for midnight cowboys ? Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italia 227 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Ok, I've tried to follow this thread, but the banter above is an absolute mystery to me. I'll have to wait for the DVD with expert commentary track included. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Hi Scott, I'll leave it to Paul to offer a transatlantic translation . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Scott, It is really very simple. In the UK you start in the English Channel and work North. Every 100 miles there is a complete change of accent, and attitude. The accent gets thicker, and so does......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Indeed so Paul, Southern lasses will confirm that . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Harvey Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Scott, Eventually you will reach a strange place called Yorkshire (not to be confused with Lancashire.) Yorkshire is so important they had to divide it in half (North and South of course.) Originally, this was so everybody knew who they were fighting. Along the way they invented a game called Cricket, in theory to reduce the number of injuries. Apparently, they used to have a bloke called Fred who was quite good at it. Then there was a bloke called Geoff who wasn't. Fred went very fast, and Geoff went very slow. Yorkshire accents and the Rules of cricket are the same thing. Nobody understands a word of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dykins Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Scott, Eventually you will reach a strange place called Yorkshire (not to be confused with Lancashire.) Yorkshire is so important they had to divide it in half (North and South of course.) Originally, this was so everybody knew who they were fighting. Along the way they invented a game called Cricket, in theory to reduce the number of injuries. Apparently, they used to have a bloke called Fred who was quite good at it. Then there was a bloke called Geoff who wasn't. Fred went very fast, and Geoff went very slow. Yorkshire accents and the Rules of cricket are the same thing. Nobody understands a word of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Paul, what's this Southern Jessie talk of halves ? East, North and West Ridings doesn't add up to two - or at least it didn't when I went to school. Count fingers, laddie . . . . . Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigbush Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Alec's right Paul - I went to school in N. Yorks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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