ronhatch Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi all, I am doing the proverbial "nut and bolt" restoration but I need all the nuts and bolts, does anybody supply a full set of the appropriate sizes for the TR4 ? Regards Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lebro Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think you will find places like Moss, The TR shop, Rimmer Bros etc can all supply. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RogerH Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Ron, firstly, get a copy of the Moss Cat. This shows everything you need and most of the other suppliers use it as well. There are kits for various things - front wing fitting kit, rear wing kit, body/chassis mounting kit etc. As you remove things take a note of what/where/ etc and make a list. The HU706 1/4" hex head screw = 0.70p SH604081 1/4" hex head screw = 0.15p and does the same job as above. Be careful with bolts as they are supplied in total length ( 2" or whatever). If you need a certain shank/grip length then the bolt will be very much longer than expected. Cut the extra thread off. (How I hate automotive bolts) Roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 TR Shop do kits for Front suspension, body mounting, wing fitting , trim fitting etc etc. Good quality and well worth the money. One thing you do have to remember is there are certain "Special" bolts so check what comes off as not all of them are still available. Triumph also had a predilection for something and 1/8" sizes which are hard to come by now as most suppliers only go in 1/4" increments so you do have to cut some down. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Smith Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 If you can gain access to an original S-T Spare Parts manual you will see that bolts are designated either as HBxxxx HUxxxx or as a 5 or 6 digit numbers. Moss have used the later corporate B-L numbering system replacing the HB/HU with BH/SH HB0708 means a standard bolt with a 7/16" spanner sized head and the length as 1" (the second two digits are the length under the head in 1/8" increments. So HB0812 has a 1/2" A/F head and a length of 1 1/2" and so on HB07xx is a 1/4" UNF thread bolt HB08xx is a 5/16" UNF thread and so on. UNC bolts have 50 added to the number so HB0858 is a 1" long 5/16" UNC thread. HU prefix is for a setscrew i.e where the thread is over the overall length of the bolt. Where the bolt part number is shown as a 5 or 6 digit number it means that it is special in some way and subject to a dedicated drawing - it may have been made from a higher grade of steel and or heat treated or has a reduced thread length to suit a particular application or has a rolled thread (for the propshaft bolts). You should make sure that the bolts that you use are correct for the application that you select. Rogers idea to record where all bolts came from is good idea as you cannot be too careful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 This is a most useful post. Thanks. My resto tip is to go on ebay and buy at least 1000 zip-lock bags in about 4-5 sizes. Everytime you get an A4 sheet of paper, blank on one side, tear it in quarters. Take something to bits, drop the small bits in a bag and write a quick note. Put the little bags in a big bag. Write a note saying whats in the big-bag and orient so you can easily read it. This will save a huge amount of frustration and head-scratching when you come to refit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ronhatch Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Wish I had asked the question earlier, up to my ankles in nuts and bolts , ah well all part of fun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ronhatch Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Are the nuts and bolts advertised for Triumph on ebay woth buying ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Are the nuts and bolts advertised for Triumph on ebay woth buying ? Which ones, there is a lot of not very good ones about. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Do it now. Bags are 1p each! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ronhatch Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-TRIUMPH-JAGUAR-650-PIECE-UNF-NUT-BOLT-AND-WASHER-KIT-EB153-/380934126593?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3ATR+4&hash=item58b1717c01 These ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-TRIUMPH-JAGUAR-650-PIECE-UNF-NUT-BOLT-AND-WASHER-KIT-EB153-/380934126593?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3ATR+4&hash=item58b1717c01 These ones Not too bad but I suspect you could buy cheaper from the likes of this lot who supply mine. http://www.namrick.co.uk/ or here http://www.lasaero.com/site/products/section?id=HW Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR NIALL Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi Stu, Is Namrick owned by a Chap who is a Member of the Register. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlanT Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Namrick has been doing this business since about 1980. Its a good choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuart Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi Stu, Is Namrick owned by a Chap who is a Member of the Register. No idea Niall, but I have dealt with them since the late eighties and they have always given good service. Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Vincent Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 I bought two bags of assorted UNF nuts and bolts from Namrick plus a set of SS 1/4 set screws for the bodywork. I still needed to buy a very few specialist items like the brake bolts which from memory were grade S but overall I have been able to find the right bolt for every application from my selection. Rgds Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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