cotswold Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hello again wise ones, I have just ordered wire wheels and think I will go fo 165/80/15 tyres. I would appreciate your opinion on thin white walls. I know they are expensive but as I only do 3000 or so miles a year it would be worth the cost as they would lst several years. Has anyone used the white wall trims from Moss? They would be a very much cheaper alternative to the manufactured white walls. Thanks Charles PS I did try and post this earlier and it seemed to disapear into the ether? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 White wall trims are difficult to keep undamaged. Go anywhere near a kerb even when parking at the side of the road and you can tear them, also where the trim rests against the tyre it scuffs the rubber and puts a small groove in it. I've tried them without grease behind and also fitted dry, can't find a suitable system to prevent tyre damage. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I thought the add-on whitewall trims were not legal - I must be wrong. I have been looking at getting a set of thin whitewall tyres. The guy who usually has a tyre stand at IWE does have thin whitewalls, but not in 165 size. Recently, I discovered this source: http://www.vintagetyres.com/item/706/165sr15-american-classic-car-tyre--road--20mm-white-wall--tl Opinions sought. And Yes, they are expensive. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fireman049 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Surely whitewall tyres are for our American members? Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdwinTiben Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Had the trims fitted to the tr4 surrey, there wasnt any damage to the trims after a season driving but the white became brown. Almost looked like the tyres rubbed their colour in the trim. This was actually in the material so clearing wont help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Thanks Fireman, I agree white walls are associated with America but I feel that if it enhances the car in the owners eyes then why not.....and "dont call me Shirley". Edwin, in the 60s I had an MG and as a teenager I spotted that the tyres had tramlines moulded into the tyre at just the position thin whitewalls would be. I found a white rubber paint and pained between the lines. I had to redo it every couple of months to keep it white for the same reason you mention of tyre colour bleeding into the white making brown. I see you can still get this in either a liquid or in a white pen. see these links. If the trims looked OK then I could re-paint them so maybe that would be the solution for a 165/80/15 tyre expecially as the standard black can be bought some £100+ cheaper each! Think this may well be the answer. Alan, I wonder if those tyres are tubeless? it doesn't say. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TWO-2x-250ml-Tyre-Wall-Paint-White-250ml-Whitewall-Rat-Rod-Hot-Rod-/321254568761?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4acc43b339 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PERMANENT-PAINT-MARKER-PEN-CAR-TYRE-METAL-RUBBER-PLASTIC-WATER-PROOF-BULLET-TIP-/230830006722?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&var=530069143845&hash=item35be8a61c2 Thanks all Charles Edited May 26, 2014 by cotswold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Charles, I did notice that tubed or tubeless was not specified. One tends to assume tubeless these days, although being a "vintage" tyre company, maybe not. The other clue is in the fact that they do list tubes on their webpage. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted May 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Edwin, do you have a photo of the trims fitted I could see please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdwinTiben Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Will look it up! Currently an original ARE set fitted, Nice to swap now and then Edited May 27, 2014 by EdwinTiben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdwinTiben Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 These were the ones I bought from a dutch site. I can assist if you are interested ( no connections, just customer) https://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marktplaats.nl%2Fa%2Fauto-diversen%2Faccessoires-overige%2Fm813328243-white-wall-ringen-15-amazon-kever-t1-t2-karmann.html%3Fc%3Da2384ef0ece270f44503df9f8598c624%26previousPage%3Dlr&edit-text=&act=url Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdwinTiben Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Hi! Here it is ! White wall outfit with top fitted. Really like these looks too. the ARE's drive better than the original steels though.. Edit: Found another picture bit closer. The picture doesnt do right at the color of the car though. Edited May 28, 2014 by EdwinTiben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR4A1965 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I have a page on wheels & tyres on the TR4a showing different options. http://tr4a.weebly.com/tyres---triumph-tr4a.html You can buy whitewalls in the UK from Vintage Tyres: http://www.vintagetyres.com Best wishes Paul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorsport Mickey Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 The original steels look very good on the car Edwin and I have to say the whitewalls suit the whole package in the photos. You still have the positive camber wishbones on the front I see. Mick Richards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thanks Paul the 20mm thin white walls would look great, need to start saving my pennies! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 165R-15 tubeless narrow whitewalls are about £100/tire over here, from one well-known online vendor. It's a common size for the vintage VW crowd. A lot less common now on vintage TRs that they may have been originally. My car, for example, was delivered with whitewalls in 1962 but I don't think it's had another set since. For some cars they can indeed complete a certain look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 £187 with VAT - but - watch the speed rating: 113mph. And officially, as I understand it, you must fit tyres with a speed rating to match the potential performance of the car! AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike3md Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Charles, If you are only doing around 3000 miles a year, the tyres will be well over their use by date by the time they are worn enough to warrant replacing! Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted December 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Thanks Don, Thanks, those images of the whitewalls look great and have pushed me over the edge and will look brilliant with my spanking new wires, I will be buying them! We sold our place in Naples FL just this March after nearly 10 years, shame I didn't organise them while I was there but didn't find and buy the TR4 until after we got back! Bet its cold there at the mo. Regards Charles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don H. Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Coker Tire (here in the US) has wide whitewalls in 165R/80-15, too. They're more like £100-120/tire in the US. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 North Hants Tyres also do whitewall trims http://www.northhantstyres.com/whitewall-flaps.html and whitewall tyres http://www.northhantstyres.com/RTS%20final/165-80-15.html Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR 2100 Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 Alec, I thought those flaps were not legal in the UK, unless they were vulcanised (or whatever) to the tyre. AlanR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alec Pringle Posted December 20, 2014 Report Share Posted December 20, 2014 I simply don't know Alan, white wall tyres of any description have never exactly been on my personal bucket list, hence I've never investigated the legality or otherwise . . . . Perhaps someone with a burning desire to put white walls on his or her TR might do the legwork ? Cheers Alec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Thanks Alec, yes the 3/4" whitewalls look good. Merry Christmas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cotswold Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 For those that were following this thread my solution was to go for inserts from the VW site on eBay and cost just £52. Fitted to new tyres and following the makers instructions to lubricate behind the inserts with red grease to stop rubbing and bleed through of the black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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