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Having got to the stage of the rebuild of going round with the grease gun I arrived underneath the prop shaft. Complete with smelly EP90 in the gun. Discovered I can't get at the nipple. Does this mean cutting a hole in my new gearbox cover? Don't think I've got the prop shaft back to front but anything's possible I suppose. JJC

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If you have a plastic replacement cover and a twin pipe exhaust then yes Im afraid that is probably the only way. If you have a gun with a flexible extension pipe then you may just be able to get to it depending on the type and orientation of the nipple. FWIW you should use grease in the nipples.

Stuart.

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Stuart- thanks. I can't get to the nipple even though it's a single pipe by the time it gets to the cruciform. So I guess it's a hole in the tunnel. The book says EP90. Is it better to use grease? Hate to start this one again but if grease is ok why can't I use grease in the trunnions? It leaks out of those on the 4. Oddly enough it doesn't seem to leak on the 2 or the 6 though. JJC

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I had to cut a hole in order to gain access to the sliding spline on the propshaft. If you get it in the correct place, it need only be about 1/16" larger in diameter than the end of the grease gun, then you jack up one rear wheel and rotate until the nipple is in the desired position (I won't say more!).

 

And, yes, I use moly grease on everything, including trunnions and this spline - I always have on my (solid rear axle) TRs. Why complicate life by having a grease and an oil gun? The important thing with the trunnions is to drive out the old grease and get new onto the working surfaces - and do it regularly. If not lubricated regularly, the trunnion can gradually seize, the symptoms being ever increasing difficulty in getting full lock in either direction - if really bad, replacement may be the only remedy as the parts may be impossible to unscrew (as I found on the righthand side of 4VC shortly after I bought it).

 

Ian Cornish

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I use moly grease on everything, including trunnions and this spline - I always have on my (solid rear axle) TRs. Why complicate life by having a grease and an oil gun?

 

I'm sure you're right Ian, but after being told to use EP90 in the trunnions, I persevered for many years, although I switched to Penrite Semi-Fluid Grease for the trunnions when my TR3A was rebuilt as they are expensive and difficult to replace. Emptying and cleaning the grease gun to switch between Moly (or similar) and SFG was tedious, even though I only do the job very 3000 miles, rather than the original recommendation of 1000 miles (really not practical, and probably unessary with modern lubricants), so I've just invested in a second grease gun and stocked up with SFG - should see me out!

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I've already got a second gun for EP90 so no problem there. But! if the accepted view is that moly (or equivalent) is good for trunnions and prop shafts then I'll convert. At the moment I oil the trunnions at less than 1000 miles. The TR4 seems not to retain the oil so I think a new policy is required. JJC

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The TR4 seems not to retain the oil.

 

I got called away when posting earlier and forgot to add that is exactly why I switched to Semi-Fluid Grease.

 

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I've already got a second gun for EP90 so no problem there. But! if the accepted view is that moly (or equivalent) is good for trunnions and prop shafts then I'll convert. At the moment I oil the trunnions at less than 1000 miles. The TR4 seems not to retain the oil so I think a new policy is required. JJC

 

 

By virtue of the nipple at the very bottom of the Trunnion, I don't think the '4' Trunnions were ever designed to take oil (unlike later models) and the original advice was for them to be greased.

 

As Ian mentioned earlier, if they are not greased regularly they can seize, but more importantly you need to shove out all the old grease with the new stuff, otherwise the old grease tuns into grinding paste!!

 

Geoff

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Quite correct, Geoff - I should have mentioned that.

Keep pumping grease into the trunnion until all the old, discoloured, grease has been expelled and the nice clean grease is coming out. Then remove all the expelled grease.

It's a lovely messy job, but very worthwhile!

Ian Cornish

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